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Something is fishy about USS Fitzgerald story we are getting from the media
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| Thomas Lifson
Posted on 06/18/2017 7:22:25 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux
Enemy islamism until demonstrated otherwise.
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posted on
06/18/2017 7:35:25 AM PDT
by
onedoug
(Remembering 68-69 Tonkin Gulf Yacht Club)
To: proust
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posted on
06/18/2017 7:37:03 AM PDT
by
WildHighlander57
((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
To: mrsmith
Facts? pffft. Since when have we cared about facts?
To: RoosterRedux
It is apparent from the damage photos that the collision was at an oblique angle, and both ships were on similar heading at the time of collision, sort of like a collision on a highway when making a lane change. Not like a head on or t-bone collision.
I suspect negligence on the bridge of the Fitzgerald because there was apparently no collision horn sounded. It should have been sounded minutes before the collision and at a minimum the captain should have been on the bridge. I take negligence (or far less likely, malice) on the part of the commercial vessel for granted.
To: RoosterRedux
The last place I expect to get accurate information about this is from The Fake News Media.
There has to be more to this story.
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posted on
06/18/2017 7:38:04 AM PDT
by
Texas Eagle
(If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
To: PIF
I guess it’s easier to believe they saw it coming right towards them on radar and let it happen.
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posted on
06/18/2017 7:38:41 AM PDT
by
proust
(Trump / Pence 2016!)
To: bigdaddy45
Whoever it was, he just became Captain Crunch.
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posted on
06/18/2017 7:38:51 AM PDT
by
IronJack
To: The Great RJ
It has been reported that Russia has developed a radar jamming technology capable of blinding a ship.
Article.
To: RoosterRedux
I strongly question that this “mother” received email from her son. Any time there is an incident like this, the ship goes into what they call “River City” and all email/internet access is immediately secured to all but only the highest-ranking sailors (generally the “Triad” of CO, XO and CMC).
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posted on
06/18/2017 7:40:24 AM PDT
by
Drew68
To: RoosterRedux
The ship is registered in the Philippines. We do not know who the owner is. The container ship neither had its running lights or transponder on. I have lots of problems with this account. Yes, civilian ship radars work with transponders. They also register objects without transponders.
A MILITARY ship's radar necessarily works in an environment where hostile ships do not helpfully have transponders on. As a matter of fact, I would HOPE that the ship's sensor software would flag a ship with transponder off as "POTENTIAL HOSTILE"!
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posted on
06/18/2017 7:41:01 AM PDT
by
PapaBear3625
(Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
To: PIF
See post 28.
To: RoosterRedux
Must be conspiracy day. My first thought after the initial reporting: How are our ships supposed to defend against modern warships if a freighter can just accidentally torpedo a destroyer?
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posted on
06/18/2017 7:42:35 AM PDT
by
freedomjusticeruleoflaw
(Western Civilization- whisper the words, and it will disappear. So let us talk now about rebirth.)
To: RoosterRedux
totaally fishy.
That destroyer will have equipment to detect if you tossed a Popsicle stick in the water in front of it.
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posted on
06/18/2017 7:42:50 AM PDT
by
anton
To: PapaBear3625
A MILITARY ship's radar necessarily works in an environment where hostile ships do not helpfully have transponders on. As a matter of fact, I would HOPE that the ship's sensor software would flag a ship with transponder off as "POTENTIAL HOSTILE"! Was the captain "smoking a rope"?
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posted on
06/18/2017 7:43:20 AM PDT
by
ROCKLOBSTER
(The fear of stark justice sends hot urine down their thighs.)
To: Rennes Templar
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posted on
06/18/2017 7:43:34 AM PDT
by
mewzilla
(Was ObamaThanks surveilling John Roberts? Might explain a lot.)
To: RoosterRedux
Hard to envision how it wound up happening. How in the hell...
Open ocean, not some crowded port or crappy weather.
I did see The USS Eisenhower, returning to Norfolk, on 29 August 1988, she collided with an anchored Spanish coal ship while entering the harbor to dock at Norfolk Naval Station when wind and currents pushed the carrier off course, although damage was minor to both ships.
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posted on
06/18/2017 7:43:56 AM PDT
by
csvset
( Illegitimi non carborundum)
To: RoosterRedux
There are pictures in other threads showing the cargo ships track. How would that track be available if the transponder was off?
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posted on
06/18/2017 7:44:12 AM PDT
by
sharkhawk
(Chelsea Dagger)
To: RoosterRedux
Nothing gets a boat driver’s attention more than radar reporting a CBDR target.
They get apoplectic over it. Unless the DD’s radar was down, something was up with the container ship.
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posted on
06/18/2017 7:44:23 AM PDT
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wrench
To: RoosterRedux
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posted on
06/18/2017 7:45:40 AM PDT
by
Zakeet
(I haven't seen Democrats this pissed off since the Republicans forced them to free their slaves)
To: RoosterRedux
Identifying ship weaknesses? A dry run?
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posted on
06/18/2017 7:45:51 AM PDT
by
GOPJ
(James Hodgkinson a Bernie Sanders true believer)kicks off Resistance Summer by shooting Republicans)
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