Posted on 05/01/2017 3:39:29 PM PDT by Timpanagos1
Don’t confuse them the facts
Well said, sir!
I think a picture of some American heroes is called for here:
“The 1861-65 Civil War between the northern and southern states was principally caused by slavery.”
It takes an uneducated person, usually through public schools, to think the people of the northern states demanded an end to slavery and were prepared to go to war to do it.
“Some states wanted to secede from the Union. Lincoln fought them over this right.”
Lincoln hadn’t been elected to office before the argument was raging.
Do you think the Civil War is over?
Not me.
“All war is fought over wealth. Period.”
Gotta agree with that.
The war was fought over keeping the southern states in the union. The Emancipation Proclamation only freed slaves in the seceding states. It was a military document coming late in the war; Lincoln hoped to both foment insurrection in the southern states and rally flagging support in the northern states.
Of course I agree with it. Lincoln was referring to man’s inherent right to revolution, not states seceding from the union.
Arguing that the Civil War was not about slavery is rank sophistry.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcy7qV-BGF4
Just as a matter of interest, slaves were a pillar of the Southern economy at the time, but I am pretty sure that as the field technology for harvesting cotton and other crops improved that the slaves would have found themselves obsolete and out of work in not to many years.
(field technology was advancing at a good clip during that time period)
The slave owners would have found themselves in a position of either feeding and housing them at a loss or just setting them free.
I had family on both sides of that war; those of us in what would become West (BY GOD) Virginia in 1861, were to poor (dirt farmers and miners) to own a slave.
Their Articles of Secession may have said SLAVERY, but you can bet your life it was about money, trade, big business, taxes, and tariffs.
California currently has a push on to secede from the Union, their excuse is immigration policy and guess what, MONEY.
I say lets let them try it, then those of us in the north state will have a good excuse to get rid of all the liberals.
Bookmarking the thread; (there was another earlier one with the Twitter quotes; had good info in the comments...)
President Andrew Jackson, who died 16 years before the Civil War started, saw it coming and was angry. Would never have let it happen!— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) May 2, 2017
No, not the unadopted Titles of Nobility Amendment.
And now the statists of today use that mistake to keep us all under their thumb.
And Trump is right - another thread laid the deal out and made it clear why the comment was an astute one.
The United States never declared war because as far as they were concerned the states were in rebellion and the constitution already gave the president the authority to suppress insurrections and rebellions. The United States, and the rest of the world, never recognized the CSA as a legitimate government. So what Lincoln did was much like what Washington did to the whiskey rebellion, just on a much larger scale.
If the Japanese had attacked Pearl Harbor and through some miracle nobody had been killed, would that mean the U.S. would not have entered World War II?
There was no strategic reason for the fort other than aggression.
Then why did the Confederacy attack?
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