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Report: California's Oroville dam’s main spillway must be repaired by November
Hotair ^ | 03/23/2017 | John Sexton

Posted on 03/23/2017 7:48:58 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: Grampa Dave
For those following the Oroville spillway situation, there are new posts on the big thread that may be of interest. (links below)

DWR's 1960's Split spillway "engineering political solution" coming back to haunt the future? (new Failure mode of the entire dam)

Unexpected waterflow observed in places in upper spillway - Why?

Expert Board of Consultants swizzled flow number specifications for the New Main Spillway and the New Emergency Spillway. Why?

A "flip bucket" temporary fix proposal to "jump" spillway flow over the damaged section "plunge pool"

61 posted on 03/26/2017 8:38:53 AM PDT by EarthResearcher333
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Thanks for the excellent way for us non engineers, non rock people as Seldon calls geologists and non physic majors to decide what to look at and keep up to date on this boon doggle.
62 posted on 03/26/2017 12:08:34 PM PDT by Grampa Dave ( The illusion of Trump-is-Hitler has been fully replaced with Trump-is-incompetent meme on 3/24/2017)
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March 27 - they are see-sawing between full spillway / closed power plant, and full on power plant / closed spillway to try to maintain levels and avoid scouring

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DJpwr57pAY


63 posted on 03/28/2017 3:36:05 AM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017)
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Thanks for the link.


64 posted on 03/28/2017 5:41:12 AM PDT by EarthResearcher333
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To: Grampa Dave
New information on an unusual situation: A well known long term "leakage" or "wet area" on the backside of the big main dam. Dam Inspectors have noted this in 2014 and 2015 reports and have recommended "investigations" and "actions" to be taken. So far, no evidence this has been investigated. See more at post links to the big thread below.

2014/2015 Dam Inspection Reports: "Long Standing..Wet Area" - midslope dam backside seepage (being ignored?)

More Info: Mid-slope Main Dam Erosion channels from unaddressed "Weepage" inside of dam

65 posted on 03/28/2017 7:33:44 AM PDT by EarthResearcher333
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To: EarthResearcher333

Thanks for the update.

So how long and how much bad data was swept under the cracking concrete?


66 posted on 03/28/2017 8:03:02 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( The illusion of Trump-is-Hitler has been fully replaced with Trump-is-incompetent meme on 3/24/2017)
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"So how long and how much bad data was swept under the cracking concrete?"

IF you are asking about post 65, the leakage on the backside of the earthen dam would be inferred from penetration of the compacted clay wall in the middle of the dam core. If a seam or crack formed in the clay water barrier, then this could allow "piping" of water from the pressure of the higher reservoir water through this seam or crack and then out the backside of the dam embankment.

It is normal to have some "weepage" in dams. However, if the source is not accurately investigated, this creates an unknown regarding a risk factor. What is surprising is that this seems that it was not investigated.

The wide area affected could represent a volume of water that is either weeping in a thin strata line, or could be a focused piping leak that widens into a strata line on the backside embankment. The latter issue is more dangerous as a focused piping leak could cause hydraulic erosion much quicker within the clay core - triggering an escalating situation.

So far, I've been able to get sat pic evidence of this condition back to 2013.

67 posted on 03/28/2017 8:48:07 AM PDT by EarthResearcher333
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More info: How should this be addressed..

= = copy of post in big thread:

"What’s the fix.."

The first step must be to investigate it. Weepage does occur at dams**, but what is unusual about this situation is that it is along a "seam area". If there is water leakage along a thin crack like defect (in the compacted clay water wall barrier), then the hydraulic erosion effects are spread. If the leakage source is a focused area in the compacted clay, then the hydraulic erosive potential notably escalates the risk factor.

The immediate prudent action to the existence of an unknown "risk factor" - in a proven long term existence of a "weepage" area with downhill erosion marks - is to lower the reservoir level below the elevation of the leak. This means, that to eliminate an unknown risk, the water level would be lowered to 660ft or below.

Then investigative procedures would be enacted to identify the saturation profile within the dam (probes). With this data, remedial repairs would be performed accordingly in the breaching area(s). (some dam remedial repair on notable leaks required excavation and replacement of the core layer defect using large volumes of mixed clay including Bentonite).

68 posted on 03/28/2017 9:13:57 AM PDT by EarthResearcher333
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