[Lazamataz]

So, from what I read her say, the NYT’s assertion President Trump was wiretapped is both ABSOLUTELY TRUE and PATENTLY FALSE, depending on what damages Trump and protects Obama best.

Gotchya.

[aquila48]

Does anybody with an ounce of common sense believe that Obama didn’t in some way approve this spying operation?

Of course he wouldn’t leave any of his fingerprints behind, but one would have to be certifiable naive to believe he wasn’t involved.

It’s just like a mob boss not “knowing” anything about a hit one of his henchmen carried out.

[KC Burke]

So, essentially, the New York Times reporting and President Trump say that former President Obama and his people interfered and surveilled a US election opponent.

[Bodleian_Girl]

Hoist with their own petard!

[wildbill]

Wow! When talking about parsing words to deflect the truth I guess it depends on the meaning of Obama.

First deflection: Times said, “these investigations have been conducted by the F.B.I., intelligence agencies and Congress, not by Obama himself.” Any moron would not interpret Trump’s remark literally to mean he personally installed a tap or electronic surveillance on Trump or his aides.

2nd Obfuscation: The Times has also said Obama administration officials sought to spread intelligence about a possible link between Trump and Russia to ensure a trail of evidence for investigators, but it said Obama himself was not involved. Another parsing to confuse the context of the article on Jan. 20. The King did not kill the Archbishop of Canterbury but who was responsible.?

3. A truth that reveals the crime. “And no Times reporter has claimed that any warrants have been issued to spy on Trump or his associates.” Ah, so the electronic surveillance that the Times reported on was done without a warrant. This is possible under current law where all intel agencies have access to anything the NSA has collected simply by asking. Check with NSA whistle blower William Binney

[Billthedrill]

That’s quite a stirring defense right there: “The charge that we’re lying sacks of donkey crap is completely untrue. What you’re smelling is really horse crap. And we’ll tell you the difference in detail...um...later.” Bart Simpson did it better.

[GOPJ]

Elisabeth Bumiller, the bureau chief, said the January story was referring to information picked up from wiretaps and other intelligence collected overseas, a process that requires no warrants.

And just how did this information come into the hands OF THE NEW YORK TIMES? Is the Times 'in' with MI6 or did an American intelligence agent share classified information with reporters (reporters on 'their' side)?

My guess is the Times is lying or splitting hairs.... The press works hand in glove with people trying to destroy President Trump using means legal or not - treasonous or not... Duely elected doesn't matter to these so-called 'elites'. They think they know better than 'the people'...

Our 'intelligence services' are lying too - and the deep (shallow) state will do their best to cover up their lies FROM THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.Why? BECAUSE JERKS IN DC... FROM THE PRESS TO CORRUPT MONEY-GRUBBERS TO THE TRAITORS ARE ON THE SAME SIDE - AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.

[GOPJ]

fyi ping - from New York Times Public Editor...

[<1/1,000,000th%]

The lefties all march to the Washington comPost these days.

[Charlemagne on the Fox]

"Better if The Times helps readers understand this crucial story than let others, with flagrant political motives, do so."

Good to know that The Times is without "flagrant political motives" . . .

[Chode]

yeah, right...

[i_robot73]

Don’t trust us then, trust us NOW

Sad it was only DJ that brought up and make ‘fake news’ stick. Any other (R) would have curled up at first ‘outrage’ from the Left.