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Army Plans New Tank After Abrams - 2030s
Scout Warrior ^ | March 1, 2017 | By Kris Osborn

Posted on 03/02/2017 3:16:53 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee

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To: Brad from Tennessee

I say mount the Rheinmetall L55 that the Leopard 2A6 has... It would have better range and MV.


61 posted on 03/02/2017 8:45:52 PM PST by 2CAVTrooper (Democrats... BETRAYING America since 1828.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Abrams variants will still be in service long after 2030. It’s an apex design at this point.


62 posted on 03/02/2017 8:49:29 PM PST by miliantnutcase
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Probably a modular system like the latest Merkava.


63 posted on 03/02/2017 8:52:37 PM PST by lavaroise
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To: archy

You are talking about the M113FSV. They mounted a turret off the Saladin armored car with a 76mm gun.


64 posted on 03/02/2017 8:54:20 PM PST by 2CAVTrooper (Democrats... BETRAYING America since 1828.)
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To: TADSLOS

Mmmmmm.....Ursula Andress.....


65 posted on 03/02/2017 8:56:38 PM PST by henkster
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To: Brad from Tennessee

More spending. The only way tanks will be used is against an inferior opponent, such as Iraq, and what is in use now is pretty efficient. If there is a real war against a major power, it won’t involve tank battles. The military is always preparing for WWII.


66 posted on 03/02/2017 9:24:34 PM PST by Pining_4_TX (For they sow the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind. ~ Hosea 8:7)
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To: 2CAVTrooper
You are talking about the M113FSV. They mounted a turret off the Saladin armored car with a 76mm gun.

Correct, and known as the *beast* or *beastie* by the lads out bush. The later FSV follow-on was the M113MRV with a Scorpion turret, also with 76 mm gun, and with better sights, a rangefinder for the main gun and passive night vision equipment. But the Sheridan turret version was also developed, though I'm unaware if it was ever deployed or saw combat.

My foggy old memory tells me there was also a prototype M113 fitted with a Bradley turret as well- can't recall if it was one of the stretched versions or earlier shortys, but the old aluminum bathtub has been so modified and hotrodded over its life, most anything is possible.

67 posted on 03/02/2017 9:35:59 PM PST by archy (Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Except bears, they'll kill you a little, and eat you.)
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To: archy

Never saw one with a Sheridan turret.

I know the M113 OSV (Opfor Surrogate Vehicle) that they have at Ft Irwin have a modified Bradley turret on them to act as BMP’s or tanks.

The MTVL was offered with a turret.


68 posted on 03/03/2017 1:23:15 PM PST by 2CAVTrooper (Democrats... BETRAYING America since 1828.)
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It has been reported Saudis lost 6 M1A2S Abrams in Yemen. However, last summer they ordered quite a few more including "20 replacements that were lost in Yemen." Early on the Houthis were using Iranian wire-guided ATGMs.

The videos I watched and reports I read seemed to indicate the tanks were total losses. Some crew members did escape.

69 posted on 03/03/2017 1:46:46 PM PST by donozark (Lock her up! Kick 'em out! Build the wall! GO TRUMP!!)
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To: wally_bert

The first thing I thought of was the Army of the Southern Cross!

I always thought that if I ever raised my own army, that would be a great name for it.


70 posted on 03/03/2017 1:54:32 PM PST by T-Bone Texan (Fill the basket of deportables!)
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To: T-Bone Texan

Great name for an army.

Southern Cross was the weakest of the three.

The third series was my favorite but the end wasn’t that great. I loved the Cyclone motorcycle.


71 posted on 03/03/2017 2:27:54 PM PST by wally_bert (I didn't get where I am today by selling ice cream tasting of bookends, pumice stone & West Germany)
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To: donozark

The Saudi tanks don’t have the advanced armor that ours have. IIRC they have straight steel armor with none of the layered ceramics and depleted uranium.


72 posted on 03/05/2017 4:41:18 AM PST by 2CAVTrooper (Democrats... BETRAYING America since 1828.)
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