Posted on 02/13/2017 5:06:59 AM PST by Kaslin
THAT IS priceless... thanks for sharing it Liz.
I'm counting this one as ONE MORE BIG WIN!
Also, just because I abhor the encompassing philosophy and morality of Alinsky’s work, it doesn’t mean that pieces of it cannot be used respectably. Some of it is indeed common sense. (it isn’t the same approach muslims have taken, when they say certain things cannot be utilized because they are tainted because they were thought of or invented by infidels)
The use of ridicule, for example. It is a great weapon to use against liberals, because they have no defense against it, and as we see, they can self-destruct when it is used against them.
Best.
Article.
Ever.
The first step in winning any fight is...to fight back! Trump seems to have no problem doing just that, and the Left just is not used to it. They can't handle it.
I love it, they are tearing away from their liberal moorings on this.
I’ve never wanted to piss on a grave more than I want to piss on Alynsky’s.
I’m having a lot of trouble trying to comprehend how you can come to the conclusion that all that killing and all those dead and damaged soldiers and all that money wasted - for absolutely no benefit whatsoever - was “the right thing”.
It wasn’t even close to “the right thing”. It was quite the opposite. The wars in Afghanistan and Iraq are easily among the worst foreign policy mistakes ever made by a US government.
In retrospect it is easy to see it that way, as most war is, in retrospect.
I understand the argument against “nation-building”. But we only had a few options:
1.) Do nothing.
2.) Bomb them into submission.
3.) Help them get out from under the Taliban in Afghanistan and Saddam Hussein and try to get another democratic government in the middle east functioning in Iraq.
The first one is the Carter Doctrine and that contributed to what we have in the Middle East now. The second one is the Soviet Union in Afghanistan Doctrine, and they left because it didn’t work. Only the third one made any sense at all given the situation.
thoughtomator, I do understand your viewpoint, I just don’t agree.
And I did give it a lot of thought. I had to.
I went to Washington DC a couple of dozen times (an eight hour drive for me) to stand outside Walter Reed in support of our wounded troops inside. I got a chance to talk to the troops on many occasions and look them in the eyes-I had to be prepared to give my justification as an American who would have voted for this action had I had to vote directly on it, and who did vote for it indirectly.
I know and talk to a lot of people who feel the same way you do. I get it. I just think walking a path in real time is different from looking back at it after you are successfully and safely on the other side in the future.
That’s all.
Still haven’t heard an actual justification for continuing to hold the “it was the right thing to do” position here and now in 2017 - if you’ve got one, lay it on us.
I can’t blame anyone.
Given those three options, that was the one I would have chosen.
None of them good, bloodless, or cheap. Two of them had potential terrible downsides without much upside except in an all out laying waste to those two countries, a blood-lust for revenge. Only the last one had any possible good upside.
But then, 9/11 wasn’t good, bloodless, or cheap either.
Actually we had the “provide the criminal evidence to substantiate extradition of Osama bin Laden to the government of Afghanistan” option. The Taliban were fully willing to turn him over.
But for some reason Bush outright refused to do that, even though it was bog-standard procedure in any other extradition case.
Why do you suppose Bush refused to do that?
In the nineteenth century, Persian Gulf Pearls, valued by the wealthy Europeans, were shipped out of Kuwait, actually al-Kuwait port.
“Wake up. Man up. If you ever want to win (and maybe someday even kiss a girl) you need to get real. They hate us, and we either win or we spend the rest of our miserable lives as Boxer the Horse, slaving away to fund the welfare state under the lash of the Left until it decides it’s time to pack us off to the glue factory”.
Finally I read someone remember poor Boxer the Horse. Truthfully, I wish someone would make a cartoon of Boxer getting away and not sent to the glue factory. That writers image has bothered me since I read this in High School.
But, yes! Let’s bury the left!
The Left employs Alinsky.
The Donald employs Sun Tzu.
BM
If someone were to end Soros ability to breathe, I would not say....”aw....what a shame”. I would be too happy to lie like that.
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