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Are you concerned that Neil Gorsuch belongs to a far-left church?
American Thinker ^ | 02/10/2017 | Ed Straker

Posted on 02/10/2017 8:11:11 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: HLPhat

If I answer this question incorrectly, will that be the end of the discussion? Will you drop it immediately, with zero follow-up?

Because I that’s what happened to me. I asked my original question as an opening for discussion. You answered it incorrectly. Now, having legalistically checked that box, you want me to answer your question.

This is getting no one anywhere. Answering my question incorrectly and then refusing to discuss it is rank futility. If you can’t politely and civilly discuss these isdues, what is the point?


241 posted on 02/11/2017 3:18:48 PM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: xzins
>>note that the Lord does not command that believers in those churches should leave them

Rom 16:17-19

17 I urge you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and put obstacles in your way that are contrary to the teaching you have learned. Keep away from them. 18 For such people are not serving our Lord Christ, but their own appetites. By smooth talk and flattery they deceive the minds of naive people. 19 Everyone has heard about your obedience, so I am full of joy over you; but I want you to be wise about what is good, and innocent about what is evil.

NIV

242 posted on 02/11/2017 3:20:05 PM PST by HLPhat (It takes a Republic TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS - not a populist Tyranny of the Majority)
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To: editor-surveyor

“Joshua Goodbaum served as a clerk for Gorsuch in 2009, and now works as an attorney. He told Reuters on Friday that on the week of his 2014 “wedding” with his partner, Gorsuch expressed his support.

“He said, ‘This is a wonderful thing. You’ll see how your relationship grows,’” Goodbaum recalled.

http://christiannews.net/2017/02/07/former-law-clerk-for-supreme-court-nominee-says-gorsuch-supported-his-gay-marriage/

Uhuh.

NO SALE.

Next Candidate?


243 posted on 02/11/2017 3:28:03 PM PST by HLPhat (It takes a Republic TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS - not a populist Tyranny of the Majority)
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To: HLPhat

If this is a true statement, I agree..NEXT CANDIDATE for sure!! First dissapointment in a Trump nominee!


244 posted on 02/11/2017 3:31:11 PM PST by pollywog (" O thou who changest not....ABIDE with me")
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To: Hot Tabasco

so it didn’t matter what “ church” Obama went to.. just saying?


245 posted on 02/11/2017 3:37:46 PM PST by pollywog (" O thou who changest not....ABIDE with me")
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To: HLPhat

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Tread easy!

What else could he have said? He couldn’t fire him.


246 posted on 02/11/2017 3:39:25 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: HLPhat

Good scripture. Again does not command the Roman Christians to leave that church. Nor to stay, but at that early date there probably were not a lot of choices.


247 posted on 02/11/2017 3:43:29 PM PST by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory.)
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To: pollywog

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Just exactly what do you think Gorsuch should have done?
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248 posted on 02/11/2017 4:03:51 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Fantasywriter; HLPhat

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You offer nothing but sophistry.
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249 posted on 02/11/2017 4:06:14 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: SeekAndFind
This doesn't bother me but criticizing Trump for superficial, not legal reasons is a HUGE RED FLAG.

But I guess I'm the only one who see’s this. I do trust DTJ.

250 posted on 02/11/2017 4:10:17 PM PST by Vision (Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid - Reagan)
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To: pollywog
so it didn’t matter what “ church” Obama went to.. just saying?

Not to me, Obama wasn't running as a Republican......For all the years you've been here, I'm disappointed you never knew that......Just sayin'

251 posted on 02/11/2017 4:12:53 PM PST by Hot Tabasco
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To: HLPhat; Fantasywriter

***‘Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did it to one of the least of these My brethren, you did it to Me.’***

The issue in this verse is not able to say that salvation is by anything except grace through faith. IMO, Jesus is repeating a thought he had earlier stated. **Mt 10:42 And whoever in the name of a disciple gives to one of these little ones even a cup of cold water to drink, truly I say to you, he shall not lose his reward.”**

In each, it has something to do with His followers (brethren or disciple)

Personally, I’m thinking that Jesus rewards even the tiniest amount of faith (mustard seed faith) and that the actions demonstrate a tiniest show of faith in Him and that He rewards it with salvation.

It took courage to help those persecuted for being with Jesus. The only reason for doing so would be a bit of faith in the Messiah.

Therefore, these passages do not say good works result in salvation. They are saying that faith results in salvation. Even the tiniest demonstration of faith saves by the grace of God. Even giving a cup of water.

Gorsuch’s issue before God, like with all of us, will be whether he has believed in the One God has sent.

Not the right church, right bible translation, not the right understanding of the millennium...but faith in Jesus the Messiah of God.


252 posted on 02/11/2017 4:14:09 PM PST by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory.)
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To: xzins

>>but faith in Jesus the Messiah of God.

The sin against the Holy Spirit is the conscious, persistent, stubborn, unyielding refusal of someone who was at one time a believer to acknowledge his or her sin, be sorry for it, and desire God’s forgiveness in Christ.

http://www.lcms.org/faqs/doctrine

Do the members of a “church” who condone homosexual marriage acknowledge their sin?


253 posted on 02/11/2017 4:20:36 PM PST by HLPhat (It takes a Republic TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS - not a populist Tyranny of the Majority)
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To: HLPhat; Fantasywriter

Do those who commit any sin have access to forgiveness? Yes.

Are they kept by grace as well as saved by grace? Yes. It is by grace from first to last.

Do they believe in Jesus in a John 3;16 kind of way? I hope, but God knows not me.

Why was Paul able to say that his murders were sins of ignorance? Because he now understood the full sinfulness of sin.

Can Christians sin and be forgiven when they finally understand their ignorance? Yes, they do not do what they want to do, but sin living in them does it.

Who shall deliver them from this body of death? I thank God through my Lord Jesus Christ.


254 posted on 02/11/2017 4:31:14 PM PST by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory.)
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To: SeekAndFind

“His wife Louise frequently leads the intercessory prayer “

The horror!


255 posted on 02/11/2017 4:45:30 PM PST by Rebelbase
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To: xzins

Absolutely agree with everything you said. Very succinctly and effectively stated—thank you.


256 posted on 02/11/2017 5:13:40 PM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter

The old hymn: “Grace, grace, God’s grace, grace that is greater than all our sin.”


257 posted on 02/11/2017 5:31:21 PM PST by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory.)
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To: xzins

I often imagine the Holy Spirit Himself touched some of those hymn writers of bygone days. The words seem too inspired, in certain cases, to be explained by human capacity alone. The hymn you mentioned definitely falls into that class.


258 posted on 02/11/2017 5:46:54 PM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter

Absolutely. He is risen. He is real. His Spirit testifies with our spirit that we are children of God.


259 posted on 02/11/2017 5:52:30 PM PST by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory.)
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To: xzins

Amen!


260 posted on 02/11/2017 6:02:43 PM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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