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1 posted on 01/13/2017 11:50:26 AM PST by PROCON
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It’d be nice to get rid of the incompetent jackwagons at ATF...

...BUUUUUUUUUUUT...

...I’d much rather that the laws which give the buffons the authority to deprive us of our rights be repealed.

So, for instance, REPEAL the 1934 NFA.

REPEAL the 1968 Gun Control Act.

REPEAL the ‘86 ban on new full autos.

THAT would be progress!


76 posted on 01/13/2017 2:55:48 PM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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While you’re at it, how about an inventory of the weapons/ammunition the federal agencies have acquired during the Obama Administration.

77 posted on 01/13/2017 2:59:59 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion
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I’m loving it.


79 posted on 01/13/2017 3:59:56 PM PST by semaj (Audentes fortuna juvat: Fortune favors the bold. Be Bold FRiends.)
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But aren’t they our “heroes” from Waco?


82 posted on 01/13/2017 5:59:54 PM PST by SisterK (its a spiritual war)
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Let’s get rid of the NEA while we’re at it.

And NPR...


85 posted on 01/13/2017 6:49:22 PM PST by SaveFerris (Hebrews 13:2 Do not forget to entertain strangers, for ... some have unwittingly entertained angels)
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"the firearms were reportedly used in numerous murders in Mexico."

And also used at the Bataclan terrorist attack in Paris. At least that's what I read somewhere.

87 posted on 01/13/2017 9:44:41 PM PST by ponygirl (An Appeal to Heaven.)
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I hate to be the wet blanket at this beach party but this bill first will have to get out of committee and make it to the floor.

Even if this bill makes it to Trumps desk it will have very little positive effect on the lives of every day FFL holders or firearms owners.

The current employees of the ATF are not going to lose their jobs. The current laws on the books regulating firearms are not going to be repealed.

About all that will happen is that AFT employees might get a change of their business address and the government will spend millions on changes to stationary and forms. .

I don’t see anything here to give me hope that gun laws are going to be enforced more efficiently or more justly.

Changing the name of the organization is putting lipstick on a pig and naming it Marylyn hoping that the public will fall in love.

88 posted on 01/14/2017 12:23:36 AM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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NOW WE’RE TALKIN’!


92 posted on 01/14/2017 9:05:00 AM PST by Paladin2 (No spellcheck. It's too much work to undo the auto wrong word substitution on mobile devices.)
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Meh. The ATF is incompetent. And exactly who you want enforcing rules such as minimum length of shotgun barrels, etc. Get rid of the idiotic laws and rules ATF is enforcing first. I have yet to see one of the eunuchs on our side proposing a complete repeal of GCA 68. Start there.


93 posted on 01/14/2017 9:07:18 AM PST by RKBA Democrat (It's no longer Right versus left, but Americanism versus globalist scum.)
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will this bill ever see the light of day or will it languish in the dark never to be voted on like many R bills?


97 posted on 01/14/2017 10:59:26 AM PST by Bubba Gump Shrimp (A Liberal is someone who cannot accept that there is a Law of Unintended Consequences)
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This was one of my suggestions! Yeah!! Also I suggested that a significant portion of them are reassigned to ICE.


99 posted on 01/14/2017 12:21:58 PM PST by Revolutionary ("Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition!")
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I’ve done a fair amount of work with ATF agents over the years. Maybe I was just lucky, but the guys I worked with were as patriotic, gun loving, 2nd amendment loving folks, as anyone I’ve ever met. It was always their leadership, the appointed and ass-kissing, ones that were the main issues. Do they have some knuckleheads? YUP. No more than anyone else, though.

But, their usefulness and mandate has come to an end.

Lets just say that there are 100,000 FFLs in the country(for arguments sake) and 1% are crooked. 1000 are dirty. When they are caught, they will spend a very, very, very long time in prison. Ergo, pretty much all FFLs operate well above board because they don’t want to go to prison, are law abiding folks, love guns and are ardent supporters of the 2nd Amendment. ATF requires FFL dealers to maintain their records for a certain amount of years(maybe 5, not sure). Most FFL guys I’ve dealt with keep their paperwork, far longer in the even that an investigation or gun trace leads ATF to their door. So, they take the responsibility very seriously.

Once ATF is done with the small number of cases dealing with dirty FFLs, what do they do? IRS collects revenue on everything, so the job they used to perform, collecting taxes on liquor and tobacco, has been outsourced. Explosives aren’t all that common, yet.

What do they do? They start doing narcotics investigations, because all dope dealers have guns. That’s what the DEA is for. People think that there are thousand and thousands of these agents. What most fed agencies do, is form task forces with the locals and give them federal credentials for their assignments. There are only 3000+/- DEA agents. No way they could do all that work without local help. ATF is no different.

On top of all that, all the agencies refer back to the FBI for pretty much everything, as they have control/oversight over criminal histories, background checks, etc.

Why not reassess the whole NFA-Class 3 regulations to make it more streamlined and less time consuming and then detail some of them to a Firerarms division in the FBI and then send the rest of them after all the muslim, jihadi’s in this country.


101 posted on 01/14/2017 5:49:50 PM PST by qaz123
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I ha e one of those tee shirts that says “alcohol tobacco and firearms should be a convenience store not a government agency”.


104 posted on 01/15/2017 9:58:57 AM PST by Rusty0604 (bc)
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I was watching NCIS LA last night. I found myself wanting to abolish the CIA, the DEA, the ATF, the FBI, and the LAPD.


107 posted on 01/16/2017 2:46:23 PM PST by Daveinyork
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