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SR-71 Blackbird Pilot Trolls Arrogant Fighter Pilot with Ground Speed Check.
Tribunist ^ | July 15, 2016 | Tribunist Staff

Posted on 12/28/2016 8:20:44 PM PST by BulletBobCo

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To: Bobibutu

Thanks!


101 posted on 12/29/2016 4:30:03 AM PST by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: Bobibutu

The infamous “How slow...” story.

I was going to post it if you hadn’t.

You saved me the trouble of finding a copy. ;-)


102 posted on 12/29/2016 5:03:03 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: SubMareener

We attack submariners have many good stories, too, and someday they might even declassify our missions so we can tell them.

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Yeah, but what’s in YOUR wallet???


103 posted on 12/29/2016 5:11:13 AM PST by Graybeard58 (+++)
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To: leakinInTheBlueSea

A former a traffic controller told me that the speed of the Blackbird is classified so when it flies by you will see “SC” in the speed box which means “speed classified.”

He said one time when it came cruising by he put a couple of marks on his scope, which was a known distance, and timed it. After it passed by he calculated it was doing about 3,500 kts. That’s about Mach 5.


104 posted on 12/29/2016 5:15:41 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: SubMareener

I’d love to. Hope I live long enough to be able to read them...


105 posted on 12/29/2016 5:23:49 AM PST by Dubh_Ghlase
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To: SubMareener; BulletBobCo; Kickass Conservative; Kozak; Inyo-Mono; chopperman; LeoWindhorse; ...
We attack submariners have many good stories, too, and someday they might even declassify our missions so we can tell them.

Blind Man's Bluff told a few of them.

I was in an airplane hangar a few years ago working on a home built airplane (RV-10) when an interested party stopped by. After talking airplanes for a while, somehow bubble head info came up. It turned out he was a SUBLANT briefer in Norfolk VA during the time I visited SUBLANT for pre patrol briefings (I did NOT remember him but I did remember the visits and the briefings given to us). He was of the opinion that BLIND MAN's BLUFF should never have been written.

Afterwards I wondered if he was visiting me on a mission to reason with me that my book's info should never be released. My submarine background taught me HOW the US gov't lies/hides information to it's citizens AND the enemy. In submarine info, probably valid. In other lies, it is info that should not be withheld in a free society.

From an AMAZON review:

Imagine if you will that you are onboard a US Navy submarine that has just snuck into Soviet territorial waters to spy on what the other side's navy is doing. From the sonar members of the crew can listen to the screw noise and learn turn counts that identify different Soviet Naval ships and submarines that are plying the seas around you. Your submarine-in this case the USS-Tautog (SSN-639) is here to gather intelligence on Soviet cruise missile submarines that could pose a threat to US carriers. Your captain, in this case Commander Buele G. Balderston drove his sub deeper into Petropavlovsk whereupon they collided with a Soviet Echo-II class attack boat. This was 1970, the half way point in the Cold War, one of three accidents that year, and all of them chronicled in Sherry Sontag, Christopher Drew and Annette Lawrence-Drew's `Blind Man's Bluff-The Untold Story of American Submarine Espionage'.

While the title may sound like some cheesy hack banged the book out and filled it with questionable information, `Blind Man's Bluff' takes the moderate approach, the authors admitting that sometimes the information is sketchy at times, and speculate on what probably happened, corroborating information from those directly involved aids in fleshing out the true stories told within the book. It details the disastrous first attempt to spy on the Soviets in 1949 when disaster struck the ill-fated USS-Cochino when one of it's batteries exploded, leaving the submarine to flounder in sixteen foot swells before eventually sinking off the coast of Norway. It's crew was rescued by her sister ship, the USS-Tusk, but not before six crewmen were killed-drowned in the stormy seas.

The book also talks at some length about Admiral Hyman G. Rickover, the man who single handedly created a nuclear navy for the United States. It details Rickover as being a power hungry, arrogant and petty man who made or broke careers as he saw fit, and someone who demanded to know about any projects `his' boats were involved with. Evidence, whether it be technical or personal, is often presented in anecdotal form, often amusing and always enlightening. It praises the Navy as often as it chastises it and allows the reader to develop their own opinions on whether an action was right or wrong.

However, with regards to the 1968 sinking of the USS-Scorpion, it attacks the establishment-the Navy and her departments for a cover-up that has gone on for thirty-two years. When the Scorpion went down, she was in such a sorry state of repair, that one crewmen had been removed over fears expressed in letters written to his superiors. However, it wasn't the fact that Scorpion seemed to be falling apart that caused her to sink, rather a defective torpedo battery leaking within a torpedo and cooked off the 350 lb HBX warhead contained within the weapon that caused her to go down. Memos written from the Naval Undersea Warfare Engineering Center told of the defective batteries, but were ignored. At first the Navy announced she may have been sunk by the Soviets, then recounted that in order to deny the torpedo theory-stating steadfastly that there was no way a weapon could `cook off' while inside a submarine. As well the authors attack, and rightfully so, the CIA for their $500 million boondoggle of the American public for the Glomar Explorer fiasco-code named Project: Jennifer, the Glomar Explorer was the CIA's massive ship that was used to hoist an antiquated Soviet Golf-class diesel electric missile submarine out of sixteen-thousand feet of water 1,700 miles north-west of Hawaii. The submarine had sunk, probably due to the same problem that sank the Cochino-an exploding battery. Suffice it to say that Glomar Explorer utterly failed to raise the sub more than 3000 feet, at which point the grapples failed and the Golf fell almost a mile where it shattered to bits on the ocean floor. This didn't stop the CIA from trying again a year later in 1975, and succeeded in raising only 20% of the sub-minus the three nuclear missiles it carried, minus any code books and minus any usable technology. It was this singular event that led to the CIA being scrutinized and stripped of much of its vaunted power.

From submarine delivered wire tapping pods being delivered into Soviet waters to listen in on undersea telephone cables to Snorkel Patty and her collection of hundreds of dolphin pins, `Blind Man's Bluff' delivers humor, excitement, and an easily readable glimpse into the shadowy and very often murky depths of Navy Intelligence, its operations and its people. The book is personable and detailed, fulfilling its criteria of being both informative and entertaining making it a fine addition to anyone's library who is interested in submarines, the US Navy or espionage in general.

106 posted on 12/29/2016 5:32:51 AM PST by politicianslie (What would a terrorist do if he were made POTUS? : Exactly what Hussein Obama is doing)
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To: BulletBobCo

Later


107 posted on 12/29/2016 5:34:46 AM PST by gaijin
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To: BulletBobCo

That was a fun read, put a smile on my face. Love the SR-71 Blackbird. Thanks for posting.


108 posted on 12/29/2016 5:49:01 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Thanks for posting the link. I started reading it and won’t put it down ‘til I finish it!

I saw one of these at the space museum in Huntsville. Totally fascinating...walked all around it, touched it.


109 posted on 12/29/2016 5:54:22 AM PST by GGpaX4DumpedTea ((I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders))
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To: BulletBobCo

Aspen 20, I show you at one thousand eight hundred and forty-two knots, across the ground.

Great thinks only come around once in a life time.


110 posted on 12/29/2016 5:57:34 AM PST by Vaduz (women and children to be impacted the most.)
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To: airplaneguy
this story has been going around the airline/aviation community for at least 20 years. it’s probably BS. Military aircraft like this fly above class A airspace so civilian Air Traffic Controllers have no responsibility over them. In addition, performance capabilities are classified info.

I've worked around fighter pilots for 35 years and they have a motto, "Never let the truth get in the way of a good story."

111 posted on 12/29/2016 6:07:29 AM PST by mbynack (Retired USAF SMSgt)
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To: urbanpovertylawcenter

Man...if that had happened to me, I’d be sitting about 6” higher in the seat!


112 posted on 12/29/2016 6:09:36 AM PST by econjack
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To: airplaneguy

“The first liar doesn’t stand a chance”


113 posted on 12/29/2016 6:20:57 AM PST by GOYAKLA ( "Suck it up Buttercup"; Pick-up the pace, I'm eighty-one!)
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To: Bryanw92

I could give you one from my father who was on a sub tender when the nuke boats were coming around more.

On one occasion, a Permit class tied up for some work, but they weren’t able to help, as none of the relevant repairmen had the security clearance to read the manuals.


114 posted on 12/29/2016 6:31:58 AM PST by ferret_airlift
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To: Stayfree

There is also one on display at the Air and Space Museum just outside Omaha.


115 posted on 12/29/2016 6:52:00 AM PST by IronJack
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To: chopperman

Kelly Johnson was the DaVinci of aviation.


116 posted on 12/29/2016 7:17:02 AM PST by CrazyIvan (Fidel and Che are together again, and it ain't on a t-shirt.)
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To: JohnBrowdie

Nonsense. BY the time this took place, the 71 was not a secret. Lots of still classified stuff about it, but LBJ told the world about it, and our enemies certainly knew it’s altitude and speed capabilities. Having a ground speed check from ATC was not letting the cat out of the bag.


117 posted on 12/29/2016 7:39:41 AM PST by AFreeBird (BEST. ELECTION. EVER!)
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To: BulletBobCo

There used to be a Blackbird jock here on Free Republic, can’t remember his handle.


118 posted on 12/29/2016 7:42:43 AM PST by A Navy Vet (I'm not Islamophobic - I'm Islamonauseous. Plus LGBTQxyz nauseous.)
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To: AFreeBird

it’s nonsense that you think it’s nonsense. it was completely unnecessary, it served ZERO national security purposes, and the only thing it accomplished was to give a pilot a chubby.

we don’t spend hundreds of billions of dollars on defense annually just to give pilots happy pants. period. end of chapter.


119 posted on 12/29/2016 8:08:59 AM PST by JohnBrowdie
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To: politicianslie

This you probably will not believe:

I was in what was described at the time as a ‘critical rating,’ meaning that there were not enough of us. The Navy asked for volunteers who would be willing to transfer from one boat to another boat as soon as it entered port and catch one which was just leaving port. I was single at the time and thought about all of the money which would accumulate while I spent so much time at sea.

I did TAD time on the Thresher.

Wait! I am not finished yet!

I did TAD time on the Scorpion!

Ask me if I feel lucky!


120 posted on 12/29/2016 9:01:29 AM PST by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (Note to all foreigners: Please.....GET OUT and STAY OUT!)
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