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China "Shocked" By Navarro Appointment, As Trump Team Proposes 10% Import Tariff
ZeroHedge.com ^ | 22 December 2016 | Tyler Durden

Posted on 12/22/2016 8:12:46 PM PST by Rockitz

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To: Rockitz
Trump Team Proposes 10% Import Tariff

Guess the Dollar Tree is going to have to rebrand itself: the DollarTen Tree.

121 posted on 12/23/2016 8:42:27 AM PST by Albion Wilde ("Americanism, not globalism, will be our credo."--Donald Trump)
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To: servantboy777
They had to be brought in by a company that we had a 51% stake, re-branded, then sold under that Chinese name. American gear not welcome in China

Chinese are allowed to become citizens of the USA, but no american can ever become a citizen of China, unless they happen to be racially chinese.

122 posted on 12/23/2016 8:44:13 AM PST by Ethan Clive Osgoode (Potheads vote Dem.)
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To: Rockitz

A tariff is a tax that will be passed on to consumers. It’s a bad idea and not what Republicans have stood for in recent times.


123 posted on 12/23/2016 8:50:27 AM PST by reaganaut1
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To: Crucial

No, it was not caused by speculation or tariffs.

You should read Carroll Quigley. There was substantial departure from the Gold-based exchange rates in order to fund WWI. The Brits aided by the U.S. Federal Reserve tried to force the Pound Sterling back up to 1913 value and in so doing triggered a deflationary spiral that crashed stocks, froze lending (because who would borrow if they had to pay back in MORE EXPENSIVE dollars or pounds?) and caused the GD.

Even higher tax rates were minimal impact on the economy as compared with the deflationary spiral deliberately forced by the globalist banks.


124 posted on 12/23/2016 9:08:38 AM PST by Disestablishmentarian
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To: reaganaut1

Tariffs are absolutely necessary to end the unsustainable trade deficits.

Hopefully, after a few years of tax cuts and elimination of regulations, they can be mostly removed again.

Things change. The U.S. built up its manufacturing under the protection of tariffs — then it was to our advantage to push for free trade. NOW IT IS CHINA and others who have built up manufacturing. FREE TRADE HURTS AMERICA AT THE PRESENT TIME.

Do not get locked into what Reagan said. He had bigger fish to fry (i.e., the Evil Empire; U.S. tax code) . . . and besides, whatever his rhetoric, he knew how to use the THREAT of TRADE WARS to benefit America.

If you do not believe me, do some research on the PLAZA ACCORD, a massive take-down of Japan under threat of Trade War that occurred on Reagan’s watch, in 1985.

I expect to see a 2017 “Plaza Accord” against China. The situation is almost identical to dynamic with Japan in the 1980s.


125 posted on 12/23/2016 9:16:17 AM PST by Disestablishmentarian
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To: Sirius Lee

>>Reagan saved Harley Davidson with a tariff on Jap bikes <<

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True; but there was a MUCH BIGGER Trade maneuver Reagan quietly carried out against Japan: the Plaza Accord.

See my #125


126 posted on 12/23/2016 9:21:55 AM PST by Disestablishmentarian
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To: nathanbedford

A gradual increase in interest rates actually will benefit the economy at this time.

When rates are rising it benefits businesses to borrow NOW and invest in capital improvements like new factories. This is because they anticipate the TERMS are better NOW than in the FUTURE.

It’s a little counter-intuitive.

The only ones benefiting from Obama/Yellin’s artificially low rates are the giant banks that can trade CRAP in their derivatives casino and NEVER ACTUALLY MAKE BUSINESS LOANS, especially to small businesses.


127 posted on 12/23/2016 9:29:57 AM PST by Disestablishmentarian
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To: dp0622

While I’m sure China is buying certain advantages from our only native criminal class (aka politicians), the major problem is right here with regulations and taxes that are designed to drive companies offshore. Unfortunately, people seem to think China is the main problem. It isn’t. It is the regulatory swamp and tax policy. That is what we should focus on.


128 posted on 12/23/2016 9:33:51 AM PST by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: Rockitz

This post covers global trade. The fact that China is pissing in it pants shows that it has a lot to lose!


129 posted on 12/23/2016 10:03:55 AM PST by mikeIII
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To: Mollypitcher1

The Chinese justify their dumping by stating “it’s a lower quality product. Of course people should pay less for it!”


130 posted on 12/23/2016 10:47:50 AM PST by Read Write Repeat
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To: TheNext

The Great Depression didn’t really start until 1932. That crash in 32’ made the one in 29 look paltry and the market had recovered 30% up to 1932.


131 posted on 12/23/2016 10:52:20 AM PST by Crucial
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To: TheNext

So my point is that Hawley-Smoot was passed in that critical period between 1929 and the real beginning of the GD, 1932.


132 posted on 12/23/2016 11:01:40 AM PST by Crucial
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To: Disestablishmentarian
Do not get locked into what Reagan said. He had bigger fish to fry (i.e., the Evil Empire; U.S. tax code) . . . and besides, whatever his rhetoric, he knew how to use the THREAT of TRADE WARS to benefit America.

If you do not believe me, do some research on the PLAZA ACCORD, a massive take-down of Japan under threat of Trade War that occurred on Reagan’s watch, in 1985.

I expect to see a 2017 “Plaza Accord” against China. The situation is almost identical to dynamic with Japan in the 1980s.

I concur. My locale (Peoria, Illinois) had been in a sort of depression since late 1981 (and really 1979) thanks to the bottom falling out after years of inflation, Jimmy Carter and the Federal Reserve massively hiking interest rates.

About a year after the Plaza Accord, major local employers (Caterpillar, Keystone Steel & Wire, Dresser Industries, etc.) were experiencing a sudden surge in business, and laid off workers were being recalled. This lasted until about 1989 or 1990 when the affects of higher interest rates began slowing the economy.
133 posted on 12/23/2016 3:01:29 PM PST by railroader
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To: Rockitz

Start at 10% and raise it 2% per year until you reach 20%.


134 posted on 12/23/2016 3:10:42 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Rockitz
It is absolutely unreasonable for gloBULList Free Traders to expect there to be completely unfettered economic freedom across global/international borders. Actually the Constitution (codifies)provides for tariffs and duties on commerce between the USA and the rest of the world.

There is free and unfettered duty free commerce between the states as regulated by the feds. All 50 states have to follow the same federal commerce regulations.

There is NOTHING in the US Constitution that provides for economic freedom across international borders and in fact the opposite is true.

Remember George Washington signed the fist tariff act in 1789.

135 posted on 12/23/2016 3:13:49 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Crucial
Tariffs and taxes caused the Great Depression. Tread lightly Trump.

That is preposterous. Nobody really believes that. This is a globalist Free Traitor™ lie/propaganda.

The Great Depression was a financial crises caused by an inflated stock market crashing instigated by buying stocks "on the margin" with borrowed money .10 on the dollar. HAD NOTHING TO WITH TARIFFS.

136 posted on 12/23/2016 3:19:21 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: IDFbunny

Chinese make crap. I have never bought a Chines made car part that was worth a sh!+.


137 posted on 12/23/2016 3:21:50 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Jarhead9297

The USA built itself int an industrial powerhouse behind a high wall of tariffs. FACT.


138 posted on 12/23/2016 3:24:00 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Kellis91789; Jarhead9297

I think JarHead lost screw on Parris Island.


139 posted on 12/23/2016 3:30:39 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: broken_clock

Trump is a God send. Thank you God.


140 posted on 12/23/2016 3:31:17 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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