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Thanks to pension funds, Los Angeles is close to becoming a microcosm of Greece
Hotair ^ | 11/20/2016 | Jazz Shaw

Posted on 11/20/2016 7:17:21 PM PST by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 11/20/2016 7:17:21 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s kinda fun to watch those who consistently vote for democrats get destroyed by the policies they so much want...


2 posted on 11/20/2016 7:21:34 PM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: SeekAndFind

Pay them in Pesos, Bullet Train vouchers and Carbon Tax Credits.


3 posted on 11/20/2016 7:24:40 PM PST by jcon40
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Put extremely simply: If the person who promised you those benefits didn’t pay for them, you’d best go look them up and ask them where they are.

Otherwise, the city council today could pass a budget which would outline every penny of spending for the next 200 years and tie the hands of every future city council. As that is obviously silly, no one could possibly tie a future budget, the SAME GOES FOR PROMISED BENEFITS.

Any city council, at their whim and as PART OF THEIR JOB can discontinue any and all benefits. And until city councils walk in with that attitude, any ‘negotiations’ will simply be how much of the union can embezzle from public funds.

I’ve always advocated for every city to stop offering any benefits at all; pay city employees a flat hourly wage where they can buy their own health insurance, surrender wages to have as many days of free time as they please, pay taxes, etc. Act like the sovereign entity you are.


4 posted on 11/20/2016 7:26:10 PM PST by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Force a sale of most of the city owned properties—leave a few parks to set up tents for the city managers to have a place to do what they do.


5 posted on 11/20/2016 7:26:26 PM PST by Mark (Celebrities... is there anything they do not know.? -Homer Simpson)
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To: SeekAndFind

Maybe Trump will bail them out. Bwahahahahahaha...


6 posted on 11/20/2016 7:29:33 PM PST by Mean Daddy (Every time Hillary lies, a demon gets its wings. - Windflier)
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Nominating this for reply of the week:

Pay them in Pesos, Bullet Train vouchers and Carbon Tax Credits.

7 posted on 11/20/2016 7:30:04 PM PST by VRW Conspirator (Enforce the Law. Build the Wall.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Lets move that Secession movement along...


8 posted on 11/20/2016 7:33:14 PM PST by Kozak (ALLAH AKBAR = HEIL HITLER)
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To: SeekAndFind

Of course, all this will mean is that Moonbeam Brown, the chief DemocRAT of them all, will impose upon us taxpayers, a major bailout.


9 posted on 11/20/2016 7:35:02 PM PST by NohSpinZone (First thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers)
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They were counting on Hillary to do that. Nope, not gonna happen


10 posted on 11/20/2016 7:36:01 PM PST by ari-freedom (The Social Justice War is over and we won!)
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To: SeekAndFind

I suppose they will expect a bail out.


11 posted on 11/20/2016 7:38:11 PM PST by kalee
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To: SeekAndFind

Basically lawmakers who approve sweetheart deals are no longer in office by the time its apparent they won’t deliver as promised.

Such sweetheart deals have no real money behind them - its just an IOU with a promise of future funding. Good luck with it when it doesn’t materialize.

We have lots of unfunded pension plans around the country and one way or another, taxpayers are ultimately on the hook for them.


12 posted on 11/20/2016 7:40:29 PM PST by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever))
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What do they want for nothing, a rubber biscuit?


13 posted on 11/20/2016 7:45:07 PM PST by W. (Practice does NOT make perfect, only perfect practice makes perfect pistolcraft!)
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To: SeekAndFind

....and no more federal funding.

Good luck with that


14 posted on 11/20/2016 7:46:19 PM PST by Mjreagan
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Well, take a look at California’s first city to go bankrupt, Vallejo.

http://www.thenewamerican.com/economy/sectors/item/17865-vallejo-california-likely-headed-for-second-bankruptcy

They didn’t include the cops and the fire fighters, which account for about 80% of the city’s direct budget, they didn’t deal with CALPERS, so they will go into bankruptcy again. And if you look at Stockton, CA (the other large municipal bankruptcy) the morons there also ignored the judge’s allowance to abrogate their union contracts, so they will go back in as well.
Folks, this is going to be happening all over the country. It isn’t just California, it’s everywhere. This nonsense about “public safety employees” getting to retire at 50 is going to hasten our demise. Our local fire district has had two chiefs retire in close succession ( one replaced the other then left a year later). They are retiring at more than they were paid! With fully paid healthcare these 50 year-olds and their wives can expect to live until they are at least 80. You do the math when they are getting $250,000 a year plus benefits. And the rank and file union FF’s do almost as well.


15 posted on 11/20/2016 7:47:43 PM PST by vette6387
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“We have lots of unfunded pension plans around the country and one way or another, taxpayers are ultimately on the hook for them.”

I disagree. Here in CA the judge has already told two cities that they could abrogate their union contracts in Chapter 9. The fact that their leaders chose not to do it (this time) doesn’t mean that it won’t happen in the future, These PE pensions are unsustainable. When the people finally have had enough (like they have shown by electing Donald Trump), these pensions will be given serious haircuts. I mean when they do, some retired cop or fire fighter is going to have to sell his ski boat or his cabin, poor baby!


16 posted on 11/20/2016 7:51:40 PM PST by vette6387
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Why would they get more AFTER retiring than they earned while working?

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17 posted on 11/20/2016 7:53:19 PM PST by Mears
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LA is also a sanctuary city...let them beg


18 posted on 11/20/2016 7:54:02 PM PST by ari-freedom (The Social Justice War is over and we won!)
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We may need an amendment that no pensions be guaranteed by the government; that was how it worked for quite a while.


19 posted on 11/20/2016 8:00:14 PM PST by marktwain
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To: SeekAndFind

This is how debt and our unbacked, fiat currency fund the progressive nanny state.


20 posted on 11/20/2016 8:05:28 PM PST by PGR88
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