Sometimes its good to have a president who is ignorant of his pardoning powers and history. Or maybe he just hung Hillary out to dry.
The Heritage Foundation - and precedent - disagree. What he might mean that it is not politic to do so; best to get the evidence out and understand just what is being pardoned here.
But the silver gold platinum lining to his statement is that sHrillary will be subject to the same!!!
Afternoon weather report for Chappequa: ashtray hail, strong gusty words, and lamp tornadoes.
This isn’t hard to figure out
All of Obama’s Muslim buddies gave Hillary Million and Millions of Dollars for special favors once she was Elected President, She LOST, they are PISSED OFF about all the Money they wasted for NOTHING. They are ALL LEANING ON OBAMA for some sort of Retribution, so He floats the idea that a PARDON is Out of the Question to appease his Muslim Buddies.
The question then becomes, What do they have that they are Holding over Obama’s Head to get him to do their bidding???
Zero Hedge doesn’t have the best record for getting details right.
I believe there are quotes from Obama about an established pardon procedure, and that he would expect procedures to be followed.
Obama comes from a legal background where Ford’s pardon of Nixon is considered illegitimate, so it’s tough for him to use the same sort of pardon himself.
The conditions of Ford’s pardon of Nixon were rare enough that research was undertaken and legal opinions sought even though the long-standing Ex Parte Garland ruling is clearcut.
Pardon without prosecution is, and should be, very rare. Prosecuting Snowden would not cause national trauma, while prosecuting a president certainly would. Secretary of State? We’ll see!
“And while Obama was referencing a potential pardon of Edward Snowden with his comments, one could assume that the law should be applied the same way for all U.S. citizens”
And that’s where this whole piece falls apart.
Just a small public display of what’s really going on. Negotiations over the amount Clintons pay for their (both) pardons. All its ever about is the money. Clintons haven’t offered up enough to satisfy obama.
Figures Obama would talk of pardoning him and in praise of him.
Snowden needs to be hanged for treason.
That MAY be the law, and in a normal universe, the law would matter. Hellary has proven time and again that she is above the law and that the law is for us peons, but not her.
Even if he supposedly cannot legally pardon her until there has been a trial, the Repubs will not do a DAMNED THING if he decides to just pardon her anyway. To them, the only thing worse than Hillary walking free is for THEM to be accused of racism for disagreeing with Obama on anything.
“I can’t pardon somebody who hasn’t gone before a court and presented themselves,”
Legal BS from a supposed Constitutional scholar.
Yep, and Ibama is,as we all know, a ‘by the book’ kind of guy.
Wow, it this true?
We know he is a lousy lawyer, but not remembering the Ford/Nixon precedent is unbelievable.
Maybe he will leave the Clintons hanging.
I was going to pardon you, before I decided I wasn’t going to pardon you....
“”If everybody took the approach that I make my own decisions about these issues, then it would be very hard to have an organized government or any kind of national security system.””
HUH? You have to admit we’re going to miss this forked-tongued devil when he leaves the scene. “I’m not going to comment” while he proceeds to comment.
He’ll pardon Hillary.
I think Spacebar has it right:
Nixon’s trial was imminent. What Ford basically did with his impressive document (and unconstitutional imho) on White House letterhead was imply that he’d be pardoned in any event since Ford would still be President so don’t waste your time, and no one ever called his bluff in a court of law or in Congress. Instant precedent, just add water.
If challenged it would not hold up. But it was not challenged.
The Nixon pardon was never contested and therefore not valid as a precedent. It was not necessary to litigate a matter that was settled by other means, namely resigation
the Nixon pardon is meaningless and the President just told you so