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Philippines' Duterte calls Obama 'son of a whore'
Daily Mail ^ | 9/5/16

Posted on 09/05/2016 7:03:31 AM PDT by Rome2000

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To: Rome2000

The Federal Government bears responsibility for these drug overdose deaths.

They do nothing to protect American youth from international drug cartels, and criticize a guy like Duterte, who is getting the job done.
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The FedGov PARTNERS with the cartels and has since at least the late 1980’s ,, VP Bush , the CIA and !Jeb! turned over their operation to Klintoon who was already a junior partner.. Not a conspiracy theory , a real conspiracy/fact.


81 posted on 09/05/2016 9:30:32 AM PDT by Neidermeyer (Bill Clinton is a 5 star general in the WAR ON WOMEN and Hillary is his Goebbels.)
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Meanwhile in the US with open borders, hundreds of kids die of overdoes every week in places like Vermont and New Hampshire.

True - Democrat elites 'protect' the criminals in the black community - NOT the law biding in black communities but the drug dealers, pimps, and gang members...

82 posted on 09/05/2016 9:33:22 AM PDT by GOPJ (Hillary's defense - "I'm not a criminal, I'm just incompetent and slow witted" - freeper Iron Munro)
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To: Neidermeyer
Meanwhile in the US with open borders, hundreds of kids die of overdoes every week in places like Vermont and New Hampshire.

Democrat 'elites' 'protect' the criminals in the black community - NOT the law biding in black communities - but the drug dealers, pimps, and gang members...

83 posted on 09/05/2016 9:35:01 AM PDT by GOPJ (Hillary's defense - "I'm not a criminal, I'm just incompetent and slow witted" - freeper Iron Munro)
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To: Rome2000

This guy isn’t real bright. According to our budget, The U.S. Government gave a total of $197,036,510 to the Philippines in 2012 and it has increased since then.I gave you this one because this was one I could break down.
Economic

• Child Survival and Health: $-420
• Department of Defense Security Assistance: $75,490
• Development Assistance: $79,721,515
• Economic Support Fund/Security Support Assistance: $456,217
• Global Health and Child Survival: $34,153,032
• Millennium Challenge Corporation: $4,439,091
• Narcotics Control: $4,286,840
• Nonproliferation, Anti-Terrorism, Demining and Related: $9,549,582
• Other Active Grant Programs: $6,403,834
• Other Food Aid Programs: $11,824,000
• Other State Assistance: $2,746,441
• Other USAID Assistance: $8,619,065
• Peace Corps: $3,388,723
Military

• Military Assistance, Total: $31,373,100

Most idiots are smart enough not to defecate where they eat. Trump will cut him off. And with good reason. It will be about time a president will step forward and tell these people that take our aid and then bad mouth us, “no more!” And it will get the attention of others that have got a large opening under the nose.

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84 posted on 09/05/2016 10:08:32 AM PDT by Redwood71
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He’s only badmouthing the Kenyan faggot in the White House who like to send Gay Ambassadors to Christian countries.

He’s not badmouthing the U.S..

It’s a personal attack on HUSSEIN OBAMA.


85 posted on 09/05/2016 10:21:29 AM PDT by Rome2000 (SMASH THE CPUSA-SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS-CLOSE ALL MOSQUES)
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LOL

SHRILLARY! is pukimo molakai!


86 posted on 09/05/2016 10:25:10 AM PDT by Rome2000 (SMASH THE CPUSA-SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS-CLOSE ALL MOSQUES)
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To: Rome2000

BTTT


87 posted on 09/05/2016 10:26:27 AM PDT by Enlightened1
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To: Redwood71

However, to put it in context this is less than 1/2 of 1% of the Philippine government budget, of about USD 50 billion.
$200 million is nice to have but its of marginal value as leverage. If the Philippines were pressed it could make a deal with China and get far more as a direct payoff. This would be otherwise economically disruptive and invite trade and finance retaliation from others, such as Japan and Korea, but those are the real isdues, not US aid.


88 posted on 09/05/2016 11:24:11 AM PDT by buwaya
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To: Neidermeyer
There was a bombing in Davao the other day ,

I was just a few miles from that night market at the time. It was near the Marco Polo Hotel.

89 posted on 09/05/2016 3:01:34 PM PDT by Mark17 (Calvary's love has never faltered. All it's wonder still remains. Souls still take eternal passage.)
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The other side of this is that the government of the Philippines recorded a Government Budget deficit equal to 0.90 percent of the country’s Gross Domestic Product in 2015. So it’s not a matter of what they are required to spend, but the fact they are spending it faster than they can make it. So, without our help, they will go broke and/or become someone else’s problem. We are not giving them money to become a superpower. According to their needs, we are giving them money to keep their heads above water. And the amount of money we are giving them is chump change to us.
The only reason we are giving support to them is because we want to re-enter the country militarily. And this show of faith, (money), that we are providing to keep them afloat, and even though we are not really not wanted there, is Obama buying our presence in the Asia area military strength with the new Navy aircraft bases there bought in January. We are paying their rent to expand our presence. In other words, we are supporting them to piss off China. And they are buying because they are in trouble financially..

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90 posted on 09/05/2016 5:52:22 PM PDT by Redwood71
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To: Rome2000

Oh, yes, he is bad mouthing the US. The only reason they are allowing us in is to cover their losses and allow us to re-enter their country with the purchase of military bases, seven we are told, just to get China’s attention. And you can bet that as soon as they can get their heads above water, we will be asked to leave. It happened before.

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91 posted on 09/05/2016 5:56:09 PM PDT by Redwood71
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To: Redwood71

The Philippine government has run a budget deficit since, oh, sometime in the 1990s.
Its actual govt spending is under 17% of GDP, while the US is at 36% of GDP. And total Philippine debt is @45% of gdp vs US 104%. So its not straining to find the money. The Philippines has been remarkably fiscally responsible since the 1980s. The US aid is a drop in the bucket under any analysis, and the country is not in any particular trouble.
Their heads would be above water without US aid.
The US is spending money to retain influence, thats all, to keep the country from looking for other allies - i.e. China.


92 posted on 09/05/2016 7:59:16 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: Redwood71

No, the reason the US was asked - not allowed, but asked - is because of the Chinese threat. The Phils is entirely indefensible and would have to make a deal with China unless supported. It would rather not make a deal with China, and the US and its neighbors would hate it if it did, as that would be a huge threat to them all. So bases.
But if the US isnt credible then they will deal with China.


93 posted on 09/05/2016 8:03:40 PM PDT by buwaya
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I don’t disagree that they are trying to get help because of China. But they are also permitting Japan to go in place and the US is going to work with Manila to increase their military possibilities. But an important part of the deal, according to Stars and Stripes, is that the US can be a military presence to slow China in their attempt to take over the substantial oil and natural gas in the region, in particular, the Spratly Islands, a collection of rocky outcrops not far from the Philippines’ Palawan island. By developing these, and other fields, the Philippines present themselves as a good risk for investment with the US and Japan in place. So by bringing in the US, and Japan, it places an appearance of stabilization and puts investors at ease.

So, you’re right about the China problem, but there is more to the problem than just China’s presence. they are literally “bad for business.”

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94 posted on 09/06/2016 1:40:33 AM PDT by Redwood71
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To: Rome2000

Did Détente happen to say that about Bill Clinton too? Just wondering....


95 posted on 09/06/2016 3:52:51 AM PDT by Savage Beast (Trump is the Resistance! Vive la résistance!)
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To: Redwood71

Oil and gas and fishing are the least of it. Trade control is the big thing. The Chinese claims mean that it would be impossible to leave Manila Bay, in normal commerce, without passing through Chinese-claimed waters. That is enormous leverage.

The Chinese have been pressing bilateral talks because they want to make a deal - the terms of which I believe have already been presented to the Phil Gov, which doesnt want it, but may eventually be forced to agree.

Such a deal is not in the best interests of anyone but the Chinese. The last thing East Asia needs are Chinese bases in the Philippines. But without credible support from the outside, and only the US is in a position to do so, the Phils may not have a choice.


96 posted on 09/06/2016 7:22:11 AM PDT by buwaya
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To: buwaya

I agree with your assessment. And we both understand that the Philippines do not want Chinese in the area at all. But the US presence is there as a diterrence to keep them out and open up the shippping lanes to make the areas more attractive to investors, and ultimately the freedom to expand their economy which is still spending more than it is taking in. So it really all comes down to the bottom line.

And I’ll ponder a future time when as soon as they get themselves back in the black, they will toss us out just like they did a few years ago. This is why they are letting us use the space, but not own. We are renting the land. They can eveict us any time they want. And will.

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97 posted on 09/06/2016 9:11:52 AM PDT by Redwood71
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I think you misunderstand the Philippine fiscal situation - It is NOT about getting back in the black. The Philippines has very sound government finances relative to the world. Its a low-tax location with relatively little debt and very decent economic growth over the last decade. US Aid is simply a token.

It is however unable to afford the kind of expensive military power required to protect its sea and sky; this sort of air force and navy (which will cost several dozen billion just to start to get something credible) is something only great powers can hope to do. It can’t depend on a cheap, mass army to serve as a deterrent as Vietnam does, it is a bunch of easily isolated, heavily populated islands that are easily cut off from each other. Simply cutting off internal inter-island trade would starve large parts of the country. Its a very easy place to blackmail.

This is not just a Philippine problem, it is a global problem, because a Chinese presence there (air bases say) means that China gets to dictate to all of East Asia. On their word, no trade westward from Japan/Korea.

The 1991 bases fiasco happened in the early post-cold war days of the “peace dividend” when there were no threats visible to either the Phils or the US. The US didn’t try very hard to hold on to the leases and they got out of the whole thing cheaply, helped along by a volcano. Many of the ant-base people in the Phil leadership were rather surprised the whole thing actually went through and were at a loss afterwards - sort of like the dog that chased the car and actually caught it. A short sighted vision on both sides.


98 posted on 09/06/2016 10:32:10 AM PDT by buwaya
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And I think you misunderstand the makings of their budget failures and how they stay operating. The Philippines recorded a Government Budget deficit equal to 0.90 percent of the country’s Gross Domestic Product in 2015. Government Budget in Philippines averaged -2.11 percent of GDP from 1988 until 2014, reaching an all time high of 1 percent of GDP in 1994. This tells me a country working with relatively small expenditures, is playing to deficits for 25 years. It’s gotta catch up.
We had the same problem with our country that came into being on as larger scale during the Obama administration when we went from $10T to $20T in 8 years. And it was corrected with the inflation of printing dollars and lying to the public starting during the Clinton administration. So the public didn’t know what happened.
I was stationed at Mather Air Force Base during the “evacuation” of Clark. We caught a large quantity of the troops and their families from it and from Subic Bay to assist the Navy. I talked with my new “Shirt” and he told me the negotiations had broken down a long time before that. It ended when the Philippines told the United States that it must withdraw from the Subic Bay naval base by the end of 1992 on December 27, 1991. So, whether we wanted to stay or not, we were tossed out on our keysters with a timeline to get it done. We wanted to stay to keep a US military presence, and they wanted us out. The Phillipine government wanted to be free of everyone they could.
Japan has bought their way back in after their expulsion after WWII. Japan became the top donor of aid to the Philippines, followed by the United States and Germany. Japan also contributed the largest amount of international aid to the Philippines after the later suffered from the 1990 Luzon earthquake and 1991 Mount Pinatubo eruption. So while they were throwing us out, they substituted the financial loss with other countries
A strategic relationship between the two countries has been strong recently. Japan supports the resolution of the Islamic insurgency in the Philippines In 2013, Japan announced it would donate ten ships valued at US$11 million to the Philippine Coast Guard. Japan and the Philippines share a “mutual concern” on China’s increasing assertiveness in its territorial claims.
In November 2015, the Philippine government and the Japan International Cooperation Agency (JICA) signed a $2-billion loan agreement for the JICA to fund part of the construction of a railway system between the Tutuban railway station in Manila to Malolos, Bulacan in the Philippines, which is targeted to become the country’s largest railway system. According to the Philippine Department of Finance, the agreement was the JICA’s “largest assistance ever extended to any country for a single project.”
In February 29, 2016, Japan signed a pact to supply defense equipment to Philippines. The agreement provides a framework for the supply of defense equipment and technology and will allow the two countries to carry out joint research and development projects. In April 3, 2016, Japanese training submarine JS Oyashio, along with two destroyers JS Ariake and JS Setogiri docked at the Alava Pier in Subic Bay for a three-day goodwill visit. Nothing like paying your bill on someone else’s money.
Tag that on to the US getting involved with the Gulf War against the Muslims when the Philippines is high in Muslims with roughly 11% of their population claimed by the National Commission of Muslim Filipinos. So with the relations we were having in the middle east starting in the 1970’s and carrying through to today, it was a slam dunk for the Philippine government to determine we were not wanted there.

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99 posted on 09/06/2016 7:04:10 PM PDT by Redwood71
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