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Who Got Us Into These Endless Wars?
Townhall.com ^ | August 9, 2016 | Pat Buchanan

Posted on 08/09/2016 9:27:57 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Chgogal

That is an excellent question.


81 posted on 08/10/2016 4:44:17 AM PDT by Kaslin (He neededAwesomeOf the ignorant to reelect him. He got them and now we have to pay the consequences)
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To: RedWulf

I should have copied the whole thing. Anyway, you can click on it.

The article makes me think Pat is admiring Hitler and believes America should not have bothered him.

There is also a bit of trivia. Which of the major candidates called Pat a Hitler loving wacko? I give you a hint. Candidate’s name starts with T and ends with UMP.


82 posted on 08/10/2016 6:12:11 AM PDT by Krosan
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To: Krosan

The article states that Hilter would have destroyed Western Civilization. All the rest of Pat’s points are pretty well known to anyone who studied the period in detail.


83 posted on 08/10/2016 7:08:57 AM PDT by RedWulf (End Free trade.)
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To: Olog-hai

Washington was far too intelligent to make an utterly absurd comment such as this.
1n 1793, we were barely a nation, having ratified the Constitution but 4 years earlier, and Europe was only dimly aware of our existence.


84 posted on 08/10/2016 7:34:36 AM PDT by Arrian (g)
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To: RedWulf

You’re one of these alt-right persons who release themselves to japanese cartoon girlss lifting their skirts?


85 posted on 08/10/2016 7:56:40 AM PDT by Krosan
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To: Arrian

So you’re denying history, then? He actually said this. I will safely take his word over yours, with all due respect.


86 posted on 08/10/2016 8:24:19 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: dfwgator

Saddam was a sunni. He was anti-Israel from the start. He was firing missiles into Israel before we were in there and during. That was why the discovery of left behind middle range missiles and the correct caps to carry gas were right next to them in a few locations. And believe me, the public is not being told all the truth about discovered weapons in Iraq, or the middle east period.

red


87 posted on 08/10/2016 8:58:18 AM PDT by Redwood71
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To: Grampa Dave

The Iraq invasion was justified based upon Saddam’s missile attacks on Israel, our only real ally in the middle east, before and during the gulf war. That and his consistent contact and support with Bin Laden and his gas attacks on the kurds in the north supplied by the US and Germany.

red


88 posted on 08/10/2016 9:02:45 AM PDT by Redwood71
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To: Krosan; Jim Robinson

>You’re one of these alt-right persons who release themselves to japanese cartoon girlss lifting their skirts?

What the heck?


89 posted on 08/10/2016 9:05:00 AM PDT by RedWulf (End Free trade.)
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To: Olog-hai

So you were there that day????Hm.....................


90 posted on 08/10/2016 10:53:56 AM PDT by Arrian (g)
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To: Arrian

What kind of a reply is that? How old are you?


91 posted on 08/10/2016 10:59:27 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: DesertRhino

On the mark. Kristol and Podhoretz are the spawn of NYC “intellectuals” who were ardent devotees of the Bolshevik Radical, Trotsky.


92 posted on 08/10/2016 11:19:50 AM PDT by Arrian (g)
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To: Olog-hai

Olog, ok, he said it.
Now ask yourself quietly.
Does it make any sense?


93 posted on 08/10/2016 11:32:15 AM PDT by Arrian (g)
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To: Arrian

I don’t have to ask myself, quietly or otherwise. It makes perfect sense. Unlike liberals like yourself, I don’t question the sanity of the Founding Fathers.

Being ready for war at all times does not mean being perpetually embroiled in wars or seeking to start wars with non-belligerents. It also does not mean maintaining a standing army, i.e. opposed to a militia of the type that Richard Henry Lee envisioned, which is comprised of all of the people.


94 posted on 08/10/2016 2:51:34 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Olog, likely you’re a well intentioned lad and I wasn’t baiting you; merely suggesting you reflect a moment on Washington’s words. Nothing more.
I’m neither a lefty nor questioning the sanity of our Founders, who though great men, were hardly infallible.
Jefferson asserted in the Declaration that ‘All Men are Created Equal” a nostrum well beyond ridiculous.
Plato, a much greater mind, identified the “Soul” as the attribute that makes each of us unique from birth; the astonishing miracle of creation!
And that was some 400 years before Christ and more than 2000+ years before Jefferson.


95 posted on 08/10/2016 5:48:43 PM PDT by Arrian (Men)
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To: Arrian

Jefferson asserted in the Declaration that “All Men are Created Equal” a nostrum well beyond ridiculous
You do not appear to belong here. Why did you register here?

We are created equal. What happens to us post-creation is up to us, however. It is the socialists that insist that all are equal from cradle to grave—or as Winston Churchill described it, such people want to consign humanity to the “equal sharing of misery”.

As for Plato, too many big-government central-planner tyrants take inspiration from his “Republic”. I refuse to regard a pagan as “a much greater mind” than any of the USA’s Founding Fathers.
96 posted on 08/10/2016 6:01:09 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

As expected, you insist on defending an absurdity and in the process reveal yourself as closed minded and intolerant, hostile to any dissent while insisting you know best. Why of course you do.
The power of Creation is hardly manifested in the physical sameness of Man but rather in his divergent attitudes, behaviors, impulses and sentiments; the very essence of the Soul; which imprints each of us w/our uniqueness. We are NOT created equal and never were!!! Post-creation? Hm...........Are you referring to the
teenage years?
A cardinal Principle of Conservatism is that we moderns, although preening w/conceit and hubris, are insignificant dwarves standing of the massive shoulders of the giants of Antiquity, who created Western Civilization. We see as far as we do, only because of their genius; Plato being one of them.
Since my posts enrage you, suggest you ignore them. Also suggest you avoid any discussion that involves an exchange of ideas, requiring reflection and thought.
Political blather might be a good fit!


97 posted on 08/11/2016 11:21:37 AM PDT by Arrian (Men)
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To: Arrian

Are you trying to come up with an opus on this thread? Please don’t make it tl;dr.


98 posted on 08/11/2016 3:57:36 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: DannyTN
The wars, were necessary. Afghanistan protected the perps. Saddam was the only state leader who openly applauded 9/11, and was openly funding suicide terrorists against Israel. Both needed to go.

But the nation building afterwards, needed to be done mostly on their dime, and needed to change their culture.

Our weak minded attempts to impose democracy on their culture has lead to years of wars, ISIS, subrogation of women’s rights, a lack of religious rights, betrayal, debts and failure.

You need to do a lot more thinking -- and clearer thinking -- before you get us into another war.

A lot of our troubles came from thinking war was necessary and lacking a plan or the will for what to do afterwards.

So we look for excuses -- too much nation building, not enough nation building, too much of an effort to transform the country, not enough effort, too much democracy, or not enough.

99 posted on 08/11/2016 4:27:21 PM PDT by x
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To: Olog-hai

Never agreed w/this bellicose comment from Washington, asserting:
“There is a rank due the United States among Nations...
.....reputation of weakness.....avoid insult.....secure peace.....rising prosperity.....ready for war.” What?
This was uttered, when we were but 4 years old, effectively unknown to the world; barely having a functioning postal system much less a military.
A much greater man, James Madison, saw war for what it always was (in paraphrase):
“ War is the mortal enemy of liberty and the spawn of debt and taxes, the instruments for concentrating power within the State among those who would exercise that power ruthlessly to insure their survival at any cost.”


100 posted on 08/13/2016 11:07:52 AM PDT by Arrian ('Girls)
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