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Trump gets it right on Saddam
CNN.com ^ | 07/07/2016 | Peter Bergen

Posted on 07/08/2016 12:30:34 PM PDT by MaxistheBest

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To: gdani

From his perspective they were terrorists.

An armed militia trying to forcefully take away a portion of the country wouldn’t be allowed anywhere.

That would be like ... Black Lives Matter arming up and trying to make Washington State a separate country. Never gonna happen.

And to me .. dead is dead, the method is not important. I feel no different that they were killed by gas than I would of if they had been killed by a bullet or a bomb.


21 posted on 07/08/2016 12:55:19 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (You can't spell Hillary without using the letters L, I, A, R)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
From his perspective they were terrorists.

An armed militia trying to forcefully take away a portion of the country wouldn’t be allowed anywhere.

Yup. Every single one. The women, the children...all murdered indiscriminately.

Forgive me if I'm not too quick to defend Saddam.

22 posted on 07/08/2016 1:00:33 PM PDT by gdani
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To: gdani

yep women children and all, just like when we nuked Japan twice.

THAT’s what is required to WIN a war.

Which was the whole original point of this article, Saddam was willing to do what MUST be done to stop the terrorists.

As long as we are not... they wont stop.


23 posted on 07/08/2016 1:07:46 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (You can't spell Hillary without using the letters L, I, A, R)
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To: MaxistheBest

Saddamm did not have clean hands when it came to terrorism. IIRC Zarqawi was trained at a Saddam sponsored Madrassa.

https://kyleorton1991.wordpress.com/2015/06/21/a-myth-revisited-saddam-hussein-had-no-connection-to-al-qaeda/


24 posted on 07/08/2016 1:08:05 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: TexasFreeper2009
Which was the whole original point of this article, Saddam was willing to do what MUST be done to stop the terrorists.

Yup. He was a wonderful guy. Just like Pol Pot, Idi Amin, Mao, Lenin...all of them. Just takin' care of terrorists.

25 posted on 07/08/2016 1:16:38 PM PDT by gdani
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To: gdani

lol

I didn’t say he was a wonderful guy, I was agree with the original article that as bad as he was he at least kept the terrorists under control.


26 posted on 07/08/2016 1:18:33 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (You can't spell Hillary without using the letters L, I, A, R)
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To: MaxistheBest

People and this author seem to dance around the root.

Saddam took out anyone who he deemed a threat to his authority, terrorist or his own people.

God gives us abilities, wisdom, talents etc.

God lets us choose if we want to use them with the control of God as our guide, or use them by our own control and cause problems. (IE: the difference in USofA using force and abilities trying to irradicate evil but allow people right to speak and demonstrate VS saddam using for his force and abilities for own purposes.)


27 posted on 07/08/2016 1:44:38 PM PDT by b4me (Idolatry is rampant in thoughts and actions. Choose whom you will serve....)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

The part you miss is that Saddam, himself, was a terrorist, and one of the worst. Have you forgotten that he invaded Kuwait?

Trump loyalty continues to pickle minds....


28 posted on 07/08/2016 1:46:27 PM PDT by Norseman (Defund the Left....completely!)
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To: Norseman

No I haven’t forgotten that or any of the other bad things he did.

But sometimes you have to make a bad guy an ally to keep even badder guys from coming to power.


29 posted on 07/08/2016 1:49:05 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (You can't spell Hillary without using the letters L, I, A, R)
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To: gdani

Saddam, Mubarak, Assad, Gaddafi and the Shah of Iran Pahlavi all had one thing in common....they put down the radical Islamic terrorists in their country. History tells us every time we eliminate on of these strong arm dictators, we open the door to more radicals.


30 posted on 07/08/2016 1:53:18 PM PDT by MaxistheBest
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To: Theoria

the Y thing that Biden ever got right was to split up Iraq into 3 countries.


31 posted on 07/08/2016 2:00:54 PM PDT by Ann Archy (ABORTION....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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The ONLY thing Biden.........oops.


32 posted on 07/08/2016 2:02:31 PM PDT by Ann Archy (ABORTION....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

“But sometimes you have to make a bad guy an ally to keep even badder guys from coming to power.”

I agree with you. We should have learned the lesson of Carter and Iran. The Shah was pro US and kept the radicals in his country to a minimum until Carter kneecapped him to bring the Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini into power. Carter is almost single handedly responsible for the rise of radical Islamic terrorists.


33 posted on 07/08/2016 2:05:56 PM PDT by MaxistheBest
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To: Norseman

Invading Kuwait, of course, had nothing at all to do with any normal definition of terrorism, and our overthrowing the Iraqi government had nothing to do with stopping terrorism. It was about Utopian nation building, spreading democracy, trying to bring extra unnecessary closure to an earlier war we had already won, etc. If we were itching for an extra war with radical Muslims, there were far better choices than non-theocratic Iraq, but of course that was never the point.

All that war accomplished was to distract from attacking actual terrorists in Afgahnistan and elsewhere, to strengthen the real radical Islamic state of Iran (by eliminating their only strong enemy in the region), and to open up a clear and easy path for terrorists to step into power in Iraq—not to mention all the deaths, injuries, and wasted billions. History shows us that a strong government/dictator is the best means of keeping radical Muslims in check in the Middle East. Look at the craziness that erupted after the Arab Spring alone. Dictators want total control; the terrorists want a theocracy based on the Koran and Sharia. These are very antagonistic goals. We could hardly have divised a better way of aiding the spread of terrorism in the region than what we did.

Fortunately, the average American is waking up to how the globalist, no borders, neo-con elites of both parties keep taking advantage of them, including in their unnecessary wars and foreign meddling that have little or nothing to do with the interests of regular Americans (and actually often work directly against those interests). Just because a Republican president was responsible for that particular war doesn’t mean we have to keep blinders on to reality.


34 posted on 07/08/2016 2:58:08 PM PDT by FenwickBabbitt
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To: TexasFreeper2009

But sometimes you have to make a bad guy an ally to keep even badder guys from coming to power.

Uncle Joe Saddam!

Had he not been removed, he would had the bomb by now. The mistake was for the big o to give Iraq to his Junior Varsity.


35 posted on 07/08/2016 3:11:42 PM PDT by Western Phil
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To: MaxistheBest
>>>and add that Saddam brutally repressed all dissent, including groups such as al Qaeda,

So essentially, Trump is saying that George Bush lied and Americans died (and continue to die).

Allegations were made by the US Government officials that a highly secretive relationship existed between former Iraqi President Saddam Hussein and the radical Islamist militant organization Al-Qaeda from 1992 to 2003.

President George W. Bush alleged that Iraqi President Saddam Hussein and militant group al-Qaeda might conspire to launch terrorist attacks on the United States, basing the administration's rationale for war, in part, on this allegation.


36 posted on 07/08/2016 4:21:10 PM PDT by oincobx
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