Posted on 06/27/2016 8:28:14 PM PDT by dennisw
Would have anything against these TDI diesel VWs being driven outside cities and the denser suburbs? I would not. And these days this is easily monitored via GPS positions. Recorded GPS or in real time transmitted to a monitor
The issue is NOT the amount of pollution these vehicles emit. The issue is that the company intentionally falsified test results. This allowed them to sell cars that had much better fuel economy and much lower cost than competitive cars. This is a felony. VW should not only be required to compensate the owners for lost value, but the perps should be jailed.
In fact, I DID say what you set out to "prove"
And, BTW ... neither of those ads are really any gross violation of any law or directive
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An opinion that, if there was an environmental directive determining "premier" ... we might lose the case
Most consumers couldn't care less whether or not their vehicles were emission compliant. However, most REALLY care what their fuel costs are. The cars are illegal to drive or sell as is, and retrofitting the cars substantially reduces their fuel economy.
Unless there is a dramatic difference ... I’m not going to know I should get 27 MPG when I’m getting 26
There IS a dramatic difference. Try 30 vs. 45 mpg. The VW cheating allowed them to go without urea injection. They did this by detecting the emission test conditions looking at the difference between front and rear wheel speeds (the emission test only turns the driven axle). They then dramatically altered the injection of fuel only during the emission part of the test. There is no way they can retrofit a urea injection system in a vehicle not designed for one due to the sizes of the injection pump, plumbing, and urea container. The alternative is to force the engine programming that was used only during the emission test which dramatically reduces fuel economy.
Yet GM can kill people with their ignition switches.
Guess VW should have let the UAW in. /s
cheers
Jim
GM RECALLED all those vehicles, millions of them.
If I pee in the tank I pick up 15 MPG ?
And VW neglected to install ...
(I can't find one single photo of a troop transport pee tube on the internet ... I KNOW they exist ... I used 'em)
It was far worse than lying. VW intentionally cheated on the test, allowing vehicles to be sold with much better fuel economy than what would be possible with the low-cost emission system used on the cars. This is a felony which could jail dozens of the knowledgeable cheaters, cost fines of billions of dollars, and still require the cars to be fixed.
Do you (Advil1000) rally want VW to be allowed to sell cars that fail emission and fuel economy regulations while everyone else must meet the law, under penalty of fines and jail?
I appreciate your attempt at humor here, but it certainly exposes your complete and total ignorance of vehicle emission control systems, fuel economy standards, and vehicle engineering.
Yep .... yer right
It ain’t what ya’ know, it’s what ya’ know that ain’t so that gets ya’ into the most trouble.
Eventually, under duress.
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