Posted on 05/28/2016 3:10:39 PM PDT by Biggirl
It was only a matter of time until someone, us or someone else, used a nuke they had developed. IOW, the actual sequence of events is important no matter how inevitable our entering the war in Europe may seem now.
One way or another nukes were going to be developed, only a matter of when.
I’m so relieved. I’ve been worried about that for my entire life.
Har, har, look up when Germany first started the mass murder of Jews and when the US had verifiable information about it. Besides, the Germans slaughtered at least as many innocent Slavs and others in Russia as they did Jews quarter of the non-Jewish Polish population.
Or doesn't murdering millions through starvation and mass shootings count the same as concentration camps ? As for what US opinion from FDR on down was at the time, well, FDR refused to take in Jews fleeing Europe so whether you or I think it's a different matter is moot.
Roosevelt had made the decision that saving the lives of Jews wasn't important enough to let them come here much less go to war over and Roosevelt, not you our I, was in charge. Hell, he didn't even think diverting bombers to blow the rail lines that led to the camps was worthwhile so take it up with FDR when you see him.
" . . . as they did Jews along with a quarter of the non-Jewish population."
A word of unsolicited advice. Don't break your neck in two places. Somehow what goes from the brain to the keyboard becomes less certain than it was prior to breaking your neck. Fascinates the neural surgeon weenies, though, since if you survive the results are unpredictable.
That's because it wasn't.
The Germans were very good at fixing damaged rail lines.
Bombing attacks were very expensive; losses of 20% of the bombers on a single mission were not unheard of.
It was more effective to work to put an end to the Thousand-Year Reich than it was to try to minimize its effects.
Whatever, rationalization is strong on this topic just like the US not helping the Poles during the Warsaw uprising by twisting Papa Joe's arm instead of playing nice the was FDR and Churchill did.
You really have no idea what it took to put a bomb anywhere near where it was supposed to go in that era and environment, do you?
Maybe they figured, since Stalin had deliberately starved to death millions of Kulaks before Hitler even got started, they didn't have much leverage over him.
They could have bombed the rail lines and the nazis would have simply emptied the rail cars and machine gunned the passengers... or left them locked in the cars to starve to death while rail lines were eventually repaired. The nazis were quite happy to kill Jews where ever they found them; so the best solution to ending the Final Solution was by destroying Germany as quickly as possible. Bombing concentration camps wouldn't have saved any Jews and would have prolonged the war by diverting resources that were being used to cut the head off the snake.
Now about not forcing Papa Joe to allow shuttle bombing in order to help the Warsaw uprising . . .
Or when Hungary was taken over by the Germans and the most efficient mass roundup of Jews made during the entire war took place over rail lines that weren't already in the hands of the Germans who were going to "easily repair" the bridges, tunnels, and embankments in spite of their not having their own people in place prepared to do so.
I get the point. The Jews weren't worth the powder it would take to blow up a bit of the genocide machine down now and again to reduce the efficiency of the German slaughter. Thank God even more Jews didn't survive to cause the Brits trouble in after the war, right?
Just like they were when FDR wouldn't allow the people on the SS St Louis to at least disembark here and try to get passage to somewhere else if they couldn't let 900 men, women, and children further expand the New York Jewish community.
None of this alters the fact that it was a just war, it only shows that there were plenty of trade offs made that were far less justifiable than dropping nukes on Japan. In Japan, we spared Japanese a mass slaughter while saving our own people as well. In Europe, sparing civilians wasn't an issue even when they were being methodically slaughtered which makes a lie of the whole "racist war in the Pacific" lie.
Bombing some rail lines wouldn't have slowed down anything. If the concentration camps weren't available, the germans would have simply slaughtered the Jews with whatever means were available locally. That's the point.
In 1943, the Warsaw ghetto had already been emptied, Treblinka had been shut down and at that very same time the U.S. was debating stopping daylight bombing in Germany because our bomber losses were so heavy. Flying into Poland wasn't an option and would have done little, if any, good. It wasn't a question of saving some bombs and fuel - I noticed you didn't mention the 10-man crews that flew the bombers...
Stalin sure didn’t feel like fighting Hitler when the Nazis were invading the parts of the Soviet Union where most of the Jews lived. Hitler took care of Stalin’s “Jewish Problem” for him.
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