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1 posted on 04/24/2016 6:22:49 AM PDT by Nextrush
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GB is just another Islamo-socialist state.


67 posted on 04/24/2016 7:39:05 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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But I never forget that the USA is another country, not a friend or even a cousin. Nor should you.

This was addressed to another WWII ally, but it's appropriate.

Just remember...when we both fought side by side?
When Hitler and Mussolini
Had you whipped, and how you cried?
Uncle Sam, he came to help you,
Gave you strength, we gave you all.
And now your great ambition
Is to see our nation fall.

--Roy Acuff, 1950

74 posted on 04/24/2016 8:06:48 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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The United States ruined Britain's "Empire?" How? Sure, we fought for our independence and caused His Majesty to lose the Colonies, but who gave up Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and India? Who is about to give up Scotland and for all practical purposes already has given up Ireland? Not to mention South Africa, Kenya, Belize, Guiana, and a couple thousand islands here and there?

The British Empire WALKED away from those. They weren't wrested from the Crown's grasp in some bloody war. They were GIVEN away. If you want to blame someone, look to your Laborites and appeasers, who spat on the Tories when they tried to hold the Empire together.

76 posted on 04/24/2016 8:13:23 AM PDT by IronJack
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He is right - the US empire has no allies - just satellites - some more favored than others. Countries Don't Have Friends; Just Interests. It seems teh globalists panicked that the UK may leave the EU and had Obama puppet speak on it. But the USA comes off as hypocritical - it tells the UK to join a sovereignty sapping organization but the USA is a proud guarding of its own sovereignty.

People overseas don't hate America for its freedoms - they hate American foreign policies for their hypocrisies.

85 posted on 04/24/2016 8:39:46 AM PDT by Trumpinator ("Are you Batman?" the boy asked. "I am Batman," Trump said.)
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Actually WWI ruined the UK’s Navy and and Empire.
Socialism ruined their future.
We had nothing to do with it. All we did was dig ‘em out. TWICE.
And subisidize their defence for over 50 years.


87 posted on 04/24/2016 9:11:27 AM PDT by Little Ray (NOTHING THAT SOMEONE ELSE HAS TO PAY FOR IS A RIGHT.)
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“History” comes in an unlimited number of revisions. Don’t waste you time on it.


88 posted on 04/24/2016 9:15:45 AM PDT by fision
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Reagan supported Thatcher fully in The Falklands war I believe. And if the Brits have scuttled the Royal Navy and he army, they have done hat on their own. I’m no fan of odungo and his position in this is, as always, shameful. But the author gets carried away (maybe he’s covering-his-ass so he won’t be called racist).


90 posted on 04/24/2016 9:19:04 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Let us now try liberty.)
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I used to respect this guy. What happened? Did he get a Wasserman-Schultz test?


91 posted on 04/24/2016 9:31:51 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (I apologize for not apologizing.)
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You Brits joined the EU.


99 posted on 04/24/2016 10:17:18 AM PDT by stocksthatgoup (GOPe/MSM - "When we want your opinion, we will give it to you.")
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President Obama's blatant intervention in our internal affairs is not a sudden breach of a soppy 'special relationship'. The USA's only real special relationship is with Saudi Arabia, a 70-year old hard pact of oil, money and power, welded together with such cynicism it out to make up gasp.

Ouch! The truth hurts.

104 posted on 04/24/2016 10:37:18 AM PDT by dfwgator
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Instead of banning Michael Savage and working on doing the same to Donald Trump. they should have banned Obama.

Like they say, hindsight is 20/20.


109 posted on 04/24/2016 10:58:10 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (It is better to live one day as a lion than one hundred years as a sheep)
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Well, Hitch II has got a lot of people talking about him today, so -- mission accomplished.

There's a theory that if Britain had made peace with Hitler in 1940 or 1941, the British Empire wouldn't have been dissolved.

It's kooky. Who's to say that the Empire wouldn't have torn itself apart in an even more brutal fashion or that Hitler or Stalin or the Japanese wouldn't have hacked away at British possessions over time?

It's like that with the idea that we should have stayed out of WWI and let Germany win. It makes sense with what we know happened after our intervention. But if we hadn't gone in we wouldn't have that knowledge and we might be kicking ourselves for having let the Kaiser take over Europe and thinking it was the worst thing that ever happened.

Hitch is emotional now and he's tapping into a long-standing British vein of anti-Americanism. Some of them still blame us for leaving them in the lurch over Suez. Blaming us for almost not supporting them a generation a later in the Falklands is more far-fetched.

118 posted on 04/24/2016 1:30:24 PM PDT by x
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Hitchens is right here. Normally, all countries, including allies, will act in their own best interests. In fact, that’s what usually creates allies; When two or more countries find that acting in certain ways together will be in their collective best interests.

However, Obama has thrown a monkey wrench into things. He seems to have held long time beliefs that Western Civilization is evil, and seems to believe that a weaker USA would be in the best interest of the world.

One thing that cannot be denied is that he has repeatedly taken actions that actively diminish the strength and influence of the USA among the rest of the world, enacted policies that can only weaken the USA economically, and done all he can to divide us internnaly. But more importantly, he has actively worked against the USA’s interests by working against our traditional allies, and in many cases, cow-towing to, and even actively supporting those countries who are not only not our friends, but actively hate the USA, and wish to see the USA destroyed.

Mark


125 posted on 04/24/2016 2:55:21 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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Oh, dear. Hitchens, usually pretty reliable on his history, has embarrassed himself a bit here. I'm guessing it to be an overreaction to 0bama shooting off his mouth about the EU, which, loathe him though I do, is not to be regarded as interfering in anyone's internal affairs. Nor can this particular issue be regarded as an "internal" affair pretty much by definition. Chill, Pete.

It may be that he is unacquainted with the level of U.S. support rendered during the Falklands affair. That's forgivable, most Americans are as well. But the notion that one sovereign nation is not to be regarded as the "friend" of another is hardly a major revelation.

We have no eternal allies, and we have no perpetual enemies. Our interests are eternal and perpetual, and those interests it is our duty to follow...

That was Henry Temple, 3d Viscount Palmerston, in 1848. Any diplomat, politician, or foreign affairs "expert" who believes otherwise is too impossibly naive to be in the business. As late as 1934 there were contingency plans for war with Great Britain, after all. Surely Hitchens cannot be amazed by this.

I do take issue with the notion that the United States is responsible for the decline and fall of the British fleet. There is one, only one, precisely one party responsible for that and it is the British government who didn't want to pay for one. It is the reason the storied Black Watch no longer exists as an independent unit. Every government sets its spending priorities, and Great Britain's didn't fall in that direction. If now some of that seems misplaced, take it up with Parliament.

As far as "special relationships" go, however, one may certainly have one despite all the above, and for better or worse, we do. We have a "special relationship" with Israel too, which does not argue a necessarily happy one at all times. We have one with Japan for entirely different reasons dating back to Perry. But when the lead starts flying, it is not Israeli or Japanese troops who are in the next foxhole over, it's the Brits and the Aussies and the Canucks. You can find a term other than "special relationship" to describe that if you like, but it doesn't change anything.

They can be silly sods, though. They play baseball in armor and football without it. Probably all that warm beer they drink...

127 posted on 04/24/2016 3:02:01 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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Dude, just ignore Obama. We do.


137 posted on 04/24/2016 6:33:46 PM PDT by gogeo (Donald Trump. Because it's finally come to that.)
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Mr. Hit hints is 100% wrong. America is Britain’s friend. It’s the socialists and Marxists who are not the friends of Britain. And your country is full of them. And they run essentially everything.


139 posted on 04/24/2016 7:09:28 PM PDT by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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I happen to like the British Empire, but this is revanchist revisionist bull.
The US would have matched the British Navy by 1925 and the British were BROKE. We were building newer classes of ships, while the British were dependent on pre-war designs. The Japanese were literally bankrupting themselves even after the 1923 Kanto Earthquake on building their navy. Limiting Naval spending was in everyone's interest.

Eisenhower's decisions to destroy the French and British Empire in order to screw Israel and help the pro-Soviet Arabs is another matter.
147 posted on 04/25/2016 5:10:17 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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So, Peter voted for the muzzi mayor, eh?


164 posted on 05/10/2016 7:20:43 PM PDT by AFreeBird
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Brits need to get out of the EU - save themselves. And then QUIT trusting our ‘elites’. We don’t trust them - they shouldn’t either...


169 posted on 05/11/2016 8:26:18 AM PDT by GOPJ ("What the hell is "conservative" about uncontrolled immigration and corporate trade pacts?")
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