The Convention Could Very Well Prove to Be a RUN-OFF Election That Trump Could Very Well LOSE

self | 04/22/16 | the_doc

[the_doc]

You’re right, of course. But I have serious doubts that Trump can hold to the course of a first ballot victory—which I why I posted my essay as a warning to FRumpsters who always gripe and cry foul when Trump doesn’t get his way.

[the_doc]

Maybe. We’ll just have to wait and see.

[the_doc]

You could very well be correct, thanks!

BTTT.

[Lakeshark]

The math favors a first ballot victory.

There will be no second ballot.

It’s sad to see so many be so delusional.

[the_doc]

Yeah, but Trump still has less than about 40% Republican support. That's why we would need head-to-head, one-on-one balloting at the Convention if Trump csn't muster a majority of delegates (even with his disproportionately high delegates-per-voter ratio).

This Convention balloting does not completely shut out GOPe meddling, but at least they will have to follow their own rules.

[smoothsailing]

But you love the hairdo, right? 8^)

[the_doc]

You might be right.

[LS]

Neither is Trump.

[Lakeshark]

The planned parenthood loving, soft on abortion, transgender bathroom supporting tax raising new york liberal?

Wow, you've got those Cruzer lies talking points down.

[the_doc]

With apologies to Lincoln Fan Mark Levin: I agree that Lincoln is badly overrated (via martyrdom plus the fact that the victors in war write the history books).

General McClellan actually bested Lincoln among Union Army voters in the 1864 election. (Grant was widely regarded as the butcher of his own troops.)

(That is beside the point of my little essay, however, crz. I am concerned about electability of a candidate. I think Trump has irreversibility ostracized the historical base of Republican support.)

[the_doc]

You are welcome to hope for a Trump victory. But your snarkiness about Cruz and the GOPe and the Party's rules is naïve.

My point in the essay, Hugin, is that you need to refrain from being a sore loser if Trump gets dumped. If Trump gets dumped at the last political minute, it will be his own fault. Trump has been monumentally offensive and ill-informed on policy matters--i.e., not Presidential and not at all popular with about 60% of Republican voters.

[crz]

(Grant was widely regarded as the butcher of his own troops.) Another mistaken historical fact. Grant was the greatest strategic mind ever to grace this countries military. Before Grant was appointed the supreme commander of the union forces, There were several battles fought that added to the total of killed that had nothing at all to do with US Grant. As for McClellan, he was the worst of the worst as general. A total disaster and I would hasten to say, a GD COWARD. As to Trump. I hope he continues on course to destroy the "REPUBLICAN" party, since it no longer is to which its name comes from-republican form of government.

[the_doc]

Thanks. BTTT.

[the_doc]

Oh, so you are one of the guys who does want Hillary to be POTUS?

(I'm just kidding. I probably won't vote for anyone but Cruz, as it turns out, and DEFINITELY not for Trump.

Anyway, montage813, what did you think of the essay that I wrote? [I didn't post it to solicit the lamest possible comments on this thread.])

[the_doc]

I understand your feeling, but it's not the way elections are supposed to work under a "democratic system." Democracy is a matter of majority rule, not plurality rule. If you don't get a majority of votes, it ain't over.

That was the point of the essay.

[the_doc]

I happen to think Obama is not a U.S. citizen at all, FWIW.

The rest of your post is moot.

[the_doc]

Ah, but who divided the Party so viciously before it got finally fractured under your scenario?

[the_doc]

Carson was my wife’s political hero until I explained Seventh Day Adventism and pointed out that Carson denies the existence of hell. That stopped her dead in her tracks.

[Lakeshark]

I knew about his background. Too bad Carson's more accomplished, honest and likable than Cruz, who is none of those.

It's one of many reasons (other than math) there will be no second ballot.

Did you explain about the cult Cruz came from?

[the_doc]

The point of my essay, which you have overlooked, is that Trump is not yet the obvious choice. Democracy, if you like, is a matter of majority rules, not plurality rules.

And BTW, I think there are a lot more NeverTrump folks than NeverCruz folks--so, it's too late to do much uniting under Trump. Most if not all of the credible Christians whom I know--which Christians comprise the historic base [certainly not the elitists] of the Party--regard Trump as an utterly loathsome phony. That's an insurmountable problem, I'm afraid.

I wish none of this were the case. I wish Trump had been more Presidential during his campaign--not a veritable Alinskyite pit bull.