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Big Science is broken
The Week ^ | April 18, 2016 | Pascal-Emmanuel Gobry

Posted on 04/18/2016 6:44:09 AM PDT by Fitzy_888

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To: Roccus

Sometimes, the right thing is done for a the wrong reason. Kennedy only wanted to get to the moon as a political achievement. He wasn’t interested otherwise.

However, many, if not all, of us benefitted and still benefit by the push of math and science in the late 1950’s and into the 1960’s.


41 posted on 04/18/2016 7:52:59 AM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: goodwithagun

It’s quite possible that the effects of conventional treatments have been overstated and others, understated. Another problem is that there isn’t just one ailment called cancer any more than there is just one ailment called a fever. The medicine that cures one fever might not even touch another fever.

I wish you a victory over your illness by any morally acceptable means. If standing on your head and snorting cactus juice does the trick, then by all means do it.


42 posted on 04/18/2016 7:54:39 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: originalbuckeye

Agreed. The problem with “science” is that people forget it is not just “climate change”, or looking for the “God particle”, or finding out about “dark matter”.

There are many areas of science that are still flourishing today. But the problem is that in other areas, careers are not in jeopardy for being wrong, but are in jeopardy due to losing funding sources for not coming up with the “correct” answer.


43 posted on 04/18/2016 7:57:54 AM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: Fitzy_888

No class of people is beyond lying, stabbing colleagues in the sck, punishing whistleblowers, lynching those who wont go along with their programs and agendas. Trying to destroy those that they regard as enemies.

All people are flawed and sinful. All prone to do things that are not above board. The type of scrutiny and built in checks and balances they have to live with combined with personal morals, and the consequences set up for those discovered to be lying/corrupt, is what helps people stay honest and do the right things.


44 posted on 04/18/2016 8:01:00 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Well said.


45 posted on 04/18/2016 8:06:39 AM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: Roccus

Let me add that I’m not justifying the falsehoods.

However, there was a legitimate arms race going on at the time. Yes, it might have been overblown at the beginning, but as time went on, the USSR did surpass us in terms of numbers with their weaponry. Had the US decided not to act at that time, we would be looking at a much different 1980’s than we had.


46 posted on 04/18/2016 8:11:07 AM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: glasseye
I would add DDT, Freon 12, peak oil, and many more BS theories that have gone belly up. With Zika virus top of the news cycle, someone should just mention "Bring Back DDT" and watch who's heads explode. For 40-50 years of my life, children would follow the DDT spray trucks, dancing and running in the spray with no ill effects. "Silent Spring" has been totally debunked, but DDT is still banned. Freon 12 has been banned for almost 30 years now and the ozone hole is the same as it has always been. Only now, Freon 134a costs $8 a pound vs. .89 cents for Freon 12 when it was banned. As soon as 5 years ago, "science" was still touting peak oil was coming. How's that working out? Now we know there has been NO warming for at least 19 years.

This is designed to get grant money from the gubmint, so Jr. won't have to get a real job.

47 posted on 04/18/2016 8:17:07 AM PDT by chuckles
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To: Fitzy_888

Bookmark.


48 posted on 04/18/2016 8:17:15 AM PDT by aquila48
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To: Fitzy_888

The problem with Big Science is that the big research money is sponsored by entities that expect certain results...that favor their cause.


49 posted on 04/18/2016 8:29:51 AM PDT by pfflier
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To: Robert357

Ironically, that is the same speech where Eisenhower warned of the military-industrial complex. We hear that quote all the time yet his warning about science being controlled by government funding is only a paragraph or two later in the same speech.


50 posted on 04/18/2016 8:33:21 AM PDT by pfflier
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To: Fitzy_888
I was trained in science in the 60s and 70s, and the problem with the status quo is glaringly obvious - except that no one is being trained in science anymore, so no one can see it.

In a nutshell, a proper publication or other announcement of an experimental result is a challenge - "I dare you to prove me wrong, if you can".

Now, the challenge is, "If you DARE to try to prove me wrong, I will have your career ended".

No science can happen under that type of threat.

51 posted on 04/18/2016 8:38:02 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Ryan never could have outfought Trump. I never knew, until this day, that it was Romney all along.)
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To: butlerweave

Sounds like another opportunity to apologize.

I would like to apologize for Obama someday. But the list of accusations, I mean apologies, is so long.


52 posted on 04/18/2016 8:41:47 AM PDT by ChessExpert (It is not compassion when you use government to give other people's money away.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I have an extremely rare case. It’s not been seen before. I quickly discovered that docs just wanted to treat me so that they could be associated with my case.


53 posted on 04/18/2016 8:44:40 AM PDT by goodwithagun (March 3, 2016: The date FReepers justified the "goodness" of Planned Parenthood.)
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To: originalbuckeye

I would love to know the doctor and the hospital. I bet I can guess the hospital. I worked at a prestigious cancer hospital in the 80s, and the guy I worked for faked his work, or at least plagiarized it. I left that job quickly and found other research work nearby. Feel free to pm me if that’s ok.


54 posted on 04/18/2016 8:52:33 AM PDT by FamiliarFace
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To: smartyaz

Government Academia complex?


55 posted on 04/18/2016 8:57:25 AM PDT by ChessExpert (It is not compassion when you use government to give other people's money away.)
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To: originalbuckeye
No one has been able to replicate the ‘gay gene’ ‘fact’ since then.

Because it isn't true. Identical twin studies prove homosexuality is not genetic

56 posted on 04/18/2016 9:01:16 AM PDT by ELS
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To: Fitzy_888

I see that I’m not the first person to think of global warming.

As I recall, no one was able to reproduce Michael Mann’s work. He wouldn’t divulge his methods lest deniers attack his work.


57 posted on 04/18/2016 9:05:27 AM PDT by ChessExpert (It is not compassion when you use government to give other people's money away.)
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To: goodwithagun

Have you seen the video series “The Truth About Cancer”? It illustrates the absurdity of conventional cancer treatment.


58 posted on 04/18/2016 9:09:34 AM PDT by ELS
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To: Fitzy_888

97% of scientists think this article is bunk.


59 posted on 04/18/2016 9:16:33 AM PDT by pas
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To: Fitzy_888

False, but true?


60 posted on 04/18/2016 9:22:57 AM PDT by bruin66 (Time: Nature's way of keeping everything from happening at once.)
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