Posted on 04/15/2016 8:14:59 AM PDT by Kaslin
David L. isn’t really an insider. He’s basically a nobody who picks up the scraps left over from his famous brother. If his last name wasn’t Limbaugh he would be a second rate slip and fall lawyer.
South Carolina isn’t a winner take all state.
It just so happens the winner took all the delegates due to his dominating victory.
Maybe if you spent less time bashing a candidate you don’t like and more actually following the election you would of known that.
But Ted has been setting up this run since he entered office. It was wise political maneuvering, and I don't know why more 'conservatives' in the congress didn't move that way, but it was grandstanding, building a foundation, accomplished nothing - he wasn't able to rally enough support to actually get anything done ... but let's say Ted is totally sincere - that he really thought he could accomplish something, rather than just make a name for himself reading Green Eggs and Ham.
The desire to change is not equivalent to the ability to change. Ted has only been effective since he married the establishment against their will. Without them, no Wisconsin, no Colorado. They need each other. The bad side of that equation is that Ted needs the establishment - he's dependent on the enemy.
So I get where you are coming from, but I don't buy it - I think Ted plots for himself first, America second, if at all. I think he might believe he's doing wonderful things for everybody. Certainly he's arrogant enough to believe that.
Give him time to mature as a politician and reveal himself, and for America and him to figure out who he's really for. Or not, of course.
I'm not riled up, merely observing. I promise you I understand.
"because it would deny you of your “Trump wuz robbed” meme"
If you can find where I said 'Trump was robbed' I'll donate 100$ to FR. I didn't say that. I said the voters were robbed of their vote by ERepublicans in Colorado.
"That’s why every poll has him losing to Hillary. Every one."
As they all had Reagan losing ... hate to throw a cliche at you, but you threw one at me, so you can have it back.
You're going to go have to find someone else to try to stick your 'meme' stuff onto (meme - recently fashionable and overused word - so you tell me something about yourself by throwing it about - why do people use it? To sound politically astute?) and 'trump supporters are dumb' and 'your bubble' stuff ... doesn't work here, not logically ... but also it's very easy to throw poop. It's what monkey's do naturally. There's a meme for you.
You’re going to go have to find someone else to try to stick your ‘meme’ stuff onto (meme - recently fashionable and overused word - so you tell me something about yourself by throwing it about - why do people use it? To sound politically astute?) and ‘trump supporters are dumb’ and ‘your bubble’ stuff ... doesn’t work here, not logically ... but also it’s very easy to throw poop. It’s what monkey’s do naturally. There’s a meme for you.
Trumpers do live in bubble. A very tight and secure one at that.
>> South Carolina isn’t a winner take all state. It just so happens the winner took all the delegates due to his dominating victory <<
Mr. Trump won 32.5% of the vote in SC, yet he gets 100% of the delegates.
You can call it whatever you want, but I call it “winner take all.”
Anyway, I’m waiting for you to explain to me exactly how this outcome was fair to the 77.5% of SC voters who voted for somebody else.
I don't think it's scary. It is challenging the opposition to state their stands on issues. If that is bothering, then it's a tough life for some.
The Alinsky ridicule rule ... yawn
They had this thing called a primary.
Everyone of age and eligible to vote had the opportunity to do so.
That’s fair enough for me. Too bad for you if you don’t feel that way.
And a winner take all primary is where the person who gets the most votes in the state gets all the delegates.
South Carolina was by congressional districts. Trump won them all. That’s a lot harder to do.
You’re definition of winner take all is wrong and you refusing to admit it doesn’t change that fact.
>> They had this thing called a primary <<
Yes, and the outcome was that the forty-plus per cent of the voters who voted for either Cruz or Rubio got absolutely zero delegates, while the 32.5$% of voters who went for Mr. Trump got 100% of the delegates.
You’re telling me that’s fair?
Of course it’s “fair” — because it’s favorable to Mr. Trump.
Oh, now I understand. Thanks for the wisdom.
He has told you this is what he'll do and it is what Trump has done his entire life. The art of the deal.
It is to cry .....
I am saddened to see purported conservatives arguing a la mode liberal. You have restated “Trump is not a member of our degenerate political class” to read “Trump is as pure as the driven snow.”
These two propositions are far from equivalent. Not even close. However, it is easy to go Alinsky on “Trump is as pure as the driven snow,” but impossible to argue that “Trump is not a member of our degenerate political class.”
This dishonest liberal debate stratagem consists in taking a proposition you don’t like but can’t rebut, restating it as something you think you can rebut, having a shot at the substitute proposition, then pretending that you have rebutted the original proposition.
Things like this are the reason I came to FR, where liberals are, in the main, not suffered. Arguing with a liberal is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter how good you are, the bird is going to crap on the board and strut around like it won anyway.
>> “Trump is not a member of our degenerate political class.” <<
Of course he’s member — a long-time member in good standing. Who’s kidding whom?
It’s just that instead of being on the receiving end of political bribery, Mr. Trump has been on the giving end — as his donations to Pelosi, Reid and the Clinton “Foundation” demonstrate in spades.
Remember this: There can be no receivers of political payoffs if there are no givers, no enablers like Mr. Trump.
Anyway, you’re always free to support Mr. Trump if you wish. You may even tell me that “it takes a thief to catch a thief” — or that it may take a “briber” to catch a “bribee.” If you honestly hew to that Credo, I won’t waste time to belabor the point.
But at the same time, please don’t think for a even a minute you can persuade me that Mr. Trump is not a member of the very same “degenerate political class” you have mentioned.
“But at the same time, please don’t think for a even a minute you can persuade me that Mr. Trump is not a member of the very same “degenerate political class” you have mentioned.”
War is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength.
Faced with a willingness to deny the self-evident and insist on the ridiculous, I decline to engage the tar baby.
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