Posted on 04/07/2016 3:31:41 PM PDT by Suz in AZ
No, we “birthers” foolishly believe in the US Constitution, and that Article I, Section II, Clause 5 means what it says it means, and that it defines who may hold the office of president. We foolishly believe that merely being natural born does not negate 1,2,5, but that 1, 2, 5 sets up additional requirements for the presidency; that not only must the candidate be natural born, he/she must have two US citizen parents, be born on American soil, be 35 years of age, and at least 14 years of residency in the US.
We also believe that redefining “natural born” means any person in the world with even the most tenuous connection to US Citizenship bodes ill for the future, and threatens our national sovreignty, our constitution, and our freedom.
It would be considerate of you to respect our objections, address our concerns as to why article II should be ignored, and just how, after 250 years, it has suddenly become so unimportant. It would be courteous, if nothing else, to not so dismissive, insulting, and rude.
Silly us, for thinking our fellow Americans would show any respect us for taking the constitution seriously, or even listen to what we have to say about why we think every article, every clause, every amendment matters.
On further reflection, perhaps someday soon, when for whatever reason, there is another assault on the constitution, the 1st amendment perhaps, we who think it means freedom of speech and should be followed, will sneeringly to told the stupid is strong with us, and we will be called “speechers” or “righters,” as our constitution continues to be degraded.
I am glad I am old. I am glad for most of life I was not told the stupid was strong with me because I learned as a school child what the constitution stood for, and I understood it. That things were perverse in those days, you could believe that the constitution actually said what it said.
Being "a citizen" is not the standard. A natural born citizen is not a Canadian.
Where's the CRBA? If he doesn't have one...he's a Canadian...or a citizen of nowhere since he renounced.
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But that's not what I was addressing.
And once again, I wasn't addressing this guys entire argument. I responded to once specific sentence.
>>Being "a citizen" is not the standard. A natural born citizen is not a Canadian.<<
But that's not what I was addressing.
Well in either case, he needs the CRBA. He must be a US Citizen to be seated in the Senate.
He won nothing Pennsylvania is not Texas. It is not a win when Pontius Pilate like, the courts wash their hands.
We already have a Citizen of The World as President. Now you want Royalty from Canada.
Now if we were talking about Trump there may be a case there.
He has a Canadian birth certificate for Petes sake.
Cruz is not eligible.
Why do people think the dems went to such trouble to make people believe Obama was born in Hawaii?
They did that because they knew he needed it to be eligible.
Otherwise they would not have cared about it.
Great point. I've always wondered where BO was really born.
Washed their hands? The Penn SC upheld a lower courts ruling - it means they agreed with it.
Only if those anchor babies had at least one parent who is a US citizen.
Only if those anchor babies had at least one parent who is a US citizen.
Thats the basis for the ruling - Cruz’s mom was a US citizen from birth.
Canada's citizenship laws have no impact on USA citizenship laws. Under U.S. citizenship laws, Ted Cruz was a U.S. citizen at birth -- and Canadian citizenship laws, whatever they might be, are simply irrelevant to the conversation.
So, if I was a Mexican and came over the border illegally, I could be an American citizen if I voted?
if one of your parents was an American and met the residency requirements, and you had never voted elsewhere, YES.
Now that we have put aside some of the details of naturalization out of the way, there is the strict requirement of Article II “natural born Citizen.” Ted Cruz can’t possibly meet that requirement.
If it is that obvious then the Pennsylvania supreme court seriously needs to hear from you. Perhaps they will make you an associate member!
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