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Kevin D. Williamson and National Review Are Elitist Scum
Conservative HQ ^ | 18 Mar 16 | George Rasley

Posted on 03/21/2016 7:38:46 AM PDT by xzins

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1 posted on 03/21/2016 7:38:46 AM PDT by xzins
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Money Quote: As Rick Manning put it so well, those who would crucify blue collar workers on the corporate crony trade altar are no better than those who would sacrifice the same group to their green gods — they are both despicable.

So true. You can't yell about sacrificing American jobs to the EPA's stupid rules, and then turn around and act all self-righteous while ignoring American jobs being lost to pure cronyism.

2 posted on 03/21/2016 7:40:34 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Prayer for Victory is the ONLY way to support the troops!)
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So many great articles like this being posted, it’s clear that the Trump movement is a revolution happening before our eyes.


3 posted on 03/21/2016 7:48:59 AM PDT by IChing
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I don’t know why people are suddenly shocked that NR is elitist. It always has been. I still remember the shame I felt when Buckley had members of the Moral Majority on Firing Line and humiliated them because they were somewhat inarticulate. I remember my mother, Buckley’s biggest fan, being shocked and hurt by that.

It’s why I preferred American Spectator (although I don’t even read that much anymore). Intellectually stimulating but also wry and quirky and down to earth.


4 posted on 03/21/2016 7:52:12 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: With my own people alone I should like to drive away the Turks (Muslims))
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To: xzins

Excellent!


5 posted on 03/21/2016 7:54:35 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (I 'm just another low info/stupid & evil/vile/crazy Trump supporter wanting to select my candidate!!)
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I strongly suggest that people read the Williamson’s article instead of relying upon those who are mis-characterizing what Williamson is saying. Williamson is not condemning working class. He is not condemning the blue collar worker. He’s not condemning the white middle class.

Williamson is condemning those who live in poor white ghettos who rely upon welfare for their living. He is condemning the same kind of culture that has led to the destruction of the black family.

Williamson is saying that Trump’s pro-tariff programs won’t solve the problems of drug abuse, out of wedlock births, and welfare dependency.

Here’s some home work: (warning, is’s a troubling read)

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/367903/white-ghetto-kevin-d-williamson


6 posted on 03/21/2016 8:01:16 AM PDT by DugwayDuke
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It’s a wonder to me that in today’s economy that hacks like Williamson can actually find some fool to fund their drivel.


7 posted on 03/21/2016 8:01:38 AM PDT by TTFlyer
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Horse hockey. Not even worth discussing.


8 posted on 03/21/2016 8:03:58 AM PDT by TTFlyer
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To: xzins

The falling away of print propagandists, talk propagandists and video propagandist is continuing apace. Turning our attention to political parasites will set the republic on its intended course.

“That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.”


9 posted on 03/21/2016 8:07:26 AM PDT by PGalt
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Did you read the article?


10 posted on 03/21/2016 8:14:37 AM PDT by DugwayDuke
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To: xzins

He’s not even Republican. or so he says on Twitter about a half hour ago.. yawn..

https://twitter.com/KevinNR


11 posted on 03/21/2016 8:34:28 AM PDT by SueRae (An election like no other..)
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First off, the article you cited was published more than two years ago. The article quoted here (and which I read in its whole, vile entirety) was published earlier this month.

The problem with WIlliamson’s article from a couple of weeks ago was his conflating white working class and lower middle class with the Caucasian underclass, which my grandma would have identified as “white trash”. Yes, the drug abuse, illegitimacy, welfare dependence, and the rest that go along with the “white trash” lifestyle indicates a degree of self-failure in a manner similar to those of the inner cities with darker complexions.

But that is not the major support group for Donnie-Boy. And Williamson’s attempt to lump in the folks that may not have a degree beyond trade school and apprenticeship with the welfare drawing meth abusers in Appalachia is just wrong on so many levels, I can’t even take it apart point by point. This boy grew up poor in Lubbock and got himself a degree. As we Texans say, “good on him”. Now he has progressed to the point of probably fitting in really well with the progressives in San Francisco, blaming the victim for what has gone on in the victim’s life. That the victim is in this case is the last acceptable scapegoat in our society, the non-progressive white male does not seem to register with him at all. I will offer this up in Williamson’s defense; he does also ruthlessly take apart people of color that the progressives normally argue are victims of the rich and powerful just as viciously as he attacks the failings of the caucasian underclass.


12 posted on 03/21/2016 8:40:28 AM PDT by L,TOWM (Is it still too soon to start shooting? [No social transformation without representation])
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Aw Jeeze, this crap again? Williamson was referring to a subset of white Americans who once worked for a decent living but have now been displaced by outsourcing and the collapse of multigenerational job sources. Instead of moving on to places where there is some employment. They wait where they were born for the jobs to come back all the while collecting government assistance.


13 posted on 03/21/2016 8:43:56 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (The most vocal supporters of a good con man are the victims.)
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And instead of directing people to the two year old article that does not mention Trump at all, here is the article in question:

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/432876/donald-trump-white-working-class-dysfunction-real-opportunity-needed-not-trump?target=author&tid=903320


14 posted on 03/21/2016 8:45:38 AM PDT by L,TOWM (Is it still too soon to start shooting? [No social transformation without representation])
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“Williamson is condemning those who live in poor white ghettos who rely upon welfare for their living. He is condemning the same kind of culture that has led to the destruction of the black family.”

Are you serious? Did he say that the corresponding black ghettos should just die off? Why didn’t he?

“Williamson is saying that Trump’s pro-tariff programs won’t solve the problems of drug abuse, out of wedlock births, and welfare dependency.”

Trump has said that jobs would certainly help out the situation.

And Trump’s pro-tariff programs are above the comprehension of Kevin Williamson.


15 posted on 03/21/2016 8:52:58 AM PDT by odawg
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I’m going to disagree. He’s blaming a breakdown in family for economic ills. Obviously, the economic ills could be blamed for a breakdown in family. Some will argue that families do just fine in much poorer cultures. That’s true. However, they live in an economy that matches their income. Americans are being driven downward economically, and they are trained to view that as failure. That doesn’t take into account the real impact of living in a $60,000 economic zone while now making only $20,000.

The bottom line is that he makes a bit of a dumb claim that they are to blame for not following the jobs, the reality is that those jobs STILL exist. They just exist elsewhere.

And it would be better to have them here than it would be to have them overseas.


16 posted on 03/21/2016 9:19:09 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Prayer for Victory is the ONLY way to support the troops!)
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“And instead of directing people to the two year old article that does not mention Trump at all, here is the article in question:”

I’ve read both articles. I directed people to the older article as it is a more comprehensive explanation of Williamson’s work. The only reason Williamson’s later article is so inflammatory here on free republic is his criticism of the Divine Donald. Both articles, taken together, explain why tariffs won’t solve the problem of the white lower class any more than they will solve the problems of the inner city ghetto.


17 posted on 03/21/2016 9:56:33 AM PDT by DugwayDuke
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I still remember the shame I felt when Buckley had members of the Moral Majority on Firing Line and humiliated them because they were somewhat inarticulate.

Buckley was frequently spot on regarding policy but annoying in presentation.

18 posted on 03/21/2016 9:57:32 AM PDT by JimRed (Is it 1776 yet? TERM LIMITS, now and forever! Build the Wall, NOW!)
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To: L,TOWM

“The problem with WIlliamson’s article from a couple of weeks ago was his conflating white working class and lower middle class with the Caucasian underclass, which my grandma would have identified as “white trash”. Yes, the drug abuse, illegitimacy, welfare dependence, and the rest that go along with the “white trash” lifestyle indicates a degree of self-failure in a manner similar to those of the inner cities with darker complexions.”

I disagree. I believe it was the Trump pumpers who conflated his statements on the white lower class with the white middle class. Several posters here on free republic made the claim that Williamson wanted the white middle class do “die out” because Williamson said tariffs weren’t the cure for all our ills.


19 posted on 03/21/2016 10:01:03 AM PDT by DugwayDuke
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“The bottom line is that he makes a bit of a dumb claim that they are to blame for not following the jobs, the reality is that those jobs STILL exist. They just exist elsewhere.”

The mining of coal has left Appalachia and is not coming back it exists nowhere else in the USA. These folks have to move elsewhere to find employment of any type.


20 posted on 03/21/2016 10:17:18 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (The most vocal supporters of a good con man are the victims.)
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