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Why Populism is Really Statism
Conservative Review ^ | 03/17/2016 | Mark Levin

Posted on 03/17/2016 6:47:15 PM PDT by MLL

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To: nathanbedford

“He does not have the right to run a gang of brownshirts beating up members of the audience.”

Has never happened, only in the minds of the MSM (and Jimmy Fallon’s writers).

“Nor does he have the right to compel silence in the audience by violence”

Has never happened. When Reagan shouted “shut up!!” to a protester, was that violence?

“Trump’s disgraceful comments which I have catalogued raise a well-founded fear that as president of the United States he would invoke the powers of government, not excepting physical violence, to suppress free speech.”

“disgraceful comments; well-founded fear; invoke the powers of government...’

You are such a disinterested, coolly reasoned poster.

What about Cruz wanting to deny Trump supporters the right of peaceful assembly in Chicago?

I noticed the attempted terrorist assassin Bill Ayres was out with the protesters Friday night. Was Bill really offended at Trump’s speech at rallies, or is Ayres offended by Trump’s campaign issues?


201 posted on 03/18/2016 12:03:42 PM PDT by odawg
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To: nathanbedford
We now add, as I predicted some time ago, the names Rush Limbaugh and Mark Levin to the list of people who have to be wrong so that Donald Trump can be right. Worse, these people are not merely mistaken they are sold out.

Since Rush Limbaugh for all intents and purposes endorsed Marco Rubio before he dropped out, I would say that he is both very mistaken and very sold out. Though perhaps calling him a sell-out is inaccurate, because he never was the anti-establishment figure people have made him out to be.

Limbaugh has always been a fake opposition to the establishment - behind the sometimes funny and incendiary rhetoric, there was always a loyalty to the RNC and its anointed candidates.

I can't comment on Levin, I've always found his persona and voice to irritating to listen to, but what little I've seen/heard from him seems like RNC boilerplate too (although, to his credit, he's stronger on the illegal immigration issue than Rush and other RNC mouthpieces).

As to the bigger issue of Trump being right, I can't say that I'm fully sold on Trump or trust him to do even half of what he promises. However, I do know that I've grown to dislike him less than I dislike his political establishment opposition. I also know that I used to have a lot of respect for Cruz, until he threw in his lot with party hacks like Lindsey Graham and Neil Bush.

202 posted on 03/18/2016 12:12:27 PM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: enumerated

Absolutely. That’s why originally I wanted Cruz as Veep to have his presidency follow. Not sure Cruz is who I thought he was, though.


203 posted on 03/18/2016 12:39:27 PM PDT by Yaelle (Liberty for all, and government by us, vs. Anything Else)
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To: nathanbedford

We now add, as I predicted some time ago, the names Rush Limbaugh and Mark Levin to the list of people who have to be wrong so that Donald Trump can be right. Worse, these people are not merely mistaken they are sold out.


It is painful to know how intelligent and learned you are and see myself across a divide from you. It certainly gives me pause, which should provide some comfort on your side of this divide, that I’m not a numb robot or blinded by emotion.

Seriously, believe me, I am stunned by the new admissions about Rush. He doesn’t have to be wrong for my choice of candidate to be right. And what did it wasn’t even Rush’s choice(s) of candidate. It was for me 100% that Rush dined with Schumer et al in secret, and did his bidding, against his audience’s best interest, all while he bashes him as Chuck U on his show. I gave him a chance that Monday to come clean, maybe say it was only that one time he cheated on his audience, only because he was wowed by power coming a’courting. Instead he doubled down, lied, danced, defended, and was hostile to us about it. Called the people who didn’t like the sound of his defense “haters.” That did it.

The Rush I thought I knew would have been a decent human being, loyal to us who made him. He would have responded to that exposé in one of two ways:

1. Explained how it was all a lie, that the NYT facts were wrong, he went to dinner once on a different occasion for a different reason, or that he never attended such a dinner at all. And proved that they were lying about him.

Or

2. Did a full on mea culpa, confessed he let them sway him, apologize to us, promise to never get swept up in it again.

There was no other response that would fit the patriotic lovable fuzz ball he was supposed to be.

As for Levin, he doesn’t seem to realize that the evil statism knows no party. And it barely knows individual states (countries). Control today comes from a central power that may or may not have any US interests at heart. Clinging to terms like “conservatism” is a game played to make us feel we have any part of our country still. Cruz doesn’t have the power to protect his family even if he were a good guy. He can’t pull off escaping oligarchy rule. He can’t even pull off the nom. Levin is doubling down but not for the benefit of us in the actual danger we are already in.


204 posted on 03/18/2016 12:56:00 PM PDT by Yaelle (Liberty for all, and government by us, vs. Anything Else)
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To: MLL

Populism is Satan’s inroad.


205 posted on 03/18/2016 12:57:46 PM PDT by inpajamas (Texas Akbar!!!!!!!)
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To: TTFlyer

Best response here. I concur!

Here’s my questions regarding Levin, being the genius he claims to be, why is it that he failed with his little legal group when they fought before the SCOTUS regarding barrycare?

He brags about taking on the EPA and the teachers unions, and yet, I haven’t heard of ONE win he can cite.

He’s full of bluster and it has worn thin. Nobody believes these guys anymore and Levin is taking it very hard as he spent countless hours coaching his prodigy Cruz, who is just not catching fire, other than within the dreaded awful lying GOP - the names lined up behind him are enough to make me cringe. Outside my a**


206 posted on 03/18/2016 2:53:46 PM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44
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To: Utmost Certainty

Hillary is old and has health issues.


207 posted on 03/18/2016 6:02:45 PM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: nathanbedford

Sadly, Ted Cruz has no chance.


208 posted on 03/18/2016 6:04:16 PM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: Travis McGee

These are the good old days.

I sadly must agree.

This was a very good and informative thread,


209 posted on 03/18/2016 8:13:48 PM PDT by berdie
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To: MLL

“Levin is not desperate. Trump is no conservative and Levin is calling him out!”

I believe Trump’s success is showing that, at this time, the traditional Left-Right Paradigm is largely not operative.


210 posted on 03/18/2016 8:19:47 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: berdie

I wish we were wrong to be pessimistic, but I fear we’re not.


211 posted on 03/19/2016 4:38:24 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: odawg

Ive heard Jim likes Cruz.

Question still stands.

I articulated 7 empirical examples of how Trump rejects core conservative values identified by Free Republic.


212 posted on 03/19/2016 10:02:30 AM PDT by lonestar67 (Trump is anti-conservative / Cruz 2016)
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To: lonestar67

I can articulate more than seven examples of how Cruz rejects core conservative values identified by Free Republic, latest being that he loves to play footsie with Romney.


213 posted on 03/19/2016 11:14:55 AM PDT by odawg
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