Posted on 03/17/2016 8:11:04 AM PDT by chrisnj
They can challenge in the states, in the courts, in the media.... We know they are creative and relentless when it comes to fighting their opponents.
No need to be so dramatic - just because Cruz is not a nbc eligible to be pres/VP but still run to be the pres does not mean he is a criminal. It just shows that he does not love the US Constitution as much as you think he does.
Calm down, Obama is the criminal. Not Cruz.
Believe me, I wish Cruz is an nbc eligible to be the pres/VP. He is much better than hildabeast. But he is not nbc and there is no way to address the issue but to amend the Constitution.
‘The left does not care where Cruz was born. Focussing on that will cost them a lot of credibility when they treated it as such a non-issue for the past eight years. The left really hates his conservatism, but they can not target that AND his place of birth at the same time. There is NO advantage for the left to target that.’
I appreciate your thoughtful post.
However, with the help of the media, the left’s credibility won’t suffer no matter what they do. So they will target Cruz’s eligibility because it is the easiest way to attack him. Cruz’s issue is different from obama’s (as far as the left is concerned) - they believe obama was born in USA whereas Cruz is born in Canada! So the media will justify it for them instead of making them out to be hypocritical for ignoring obama’s nbc issue but attacking Cruz’s.
There is every advantage for the left to target Cruz’s eligibility issue - last time they showed off obama’s so-called Hawaii bc to protect him, this time they will blast Cruz’s Canadian bc all over the airwaves until there is chaos and the GOP will replace the entire ticket!
Even if you are right that the left will not target Cruz’s nbc issue, we still have to answer to our own conscience that we are helping to dismantle article 2 in the Constitution.
I personally believe Cruz is a natural born citizen according to the original intent of the founders and the Constitution. The issue has been debated endlessly here, so I do not really want to go down that trail, as most people have made up their minds. And I also do not think any effort to stop him from being elected based on this issue will succeed. Instead, it will backfire.
Cruz did not refer to those here 20 years or by any specific figure during that amnesty BS. He wanted them to get a status. We have had some 20 million or maybe more come across that border to include South and Central Americans, add a number of Muslims plus you name it. They gotta go.
Clam down? Clearly you haven’t been reading the threads on FR for the past 6 months, My post was down right tranquil!
Arrest TED CRUZ!!!! Put him in GITMO and Throw the key away!!
This is a lie perpetuated by dishonest people who don't know jack squat about the law. But they continue lying to dupe people who can't think or use Google. There is no need to jump to any conclusion. The stupid screams and it burns.
I think Trump is smart enough to not pick Cruz because he has expressed his doubts about Cruz’s constitutional eligibility due to his birth in Canada.
Trump made those bogus claims to delude people who don't use their brains into believing what he's telling them is true. And, like you, they lap it up oblivious to anything proving otherwise. If Trump is smart he'll add a conservative to his ticket so that millions of conservatives don't stay home like 2012. If Trump is truly an outsider, and wants to lead a revolution, he won't pick an establishment person, but will pick someone who the establishment hates, is battle tested, and has a loyal following. I can think of someone.....
You think Canada is going to cause chaos in the election? Maybe you don't remember the chaos the McCain birthers caused in '08. That's because nothing ever happened from it. But you keep talking up your nothingburger nonsense and you'll get a liberal/GOPe on the ticket and millions of conservatives that don't vote.
You posted a stupid vanity about a stupid subject that only shows you don't understand a thing about the Constitution, or what it's going to take to win the election. I want our side to win and will vote for whoever wins the nomination. All you've shown us, however, is that you are really good at drinking gallons of Kool-Aid. Thanks for sharing.
On further thought I now suspect that you are a GOPe plant! If you have been following the threads here on FR you have to be aware that Ted is guilty of multiple high crimes and misdemeanors. Anyone not of the protected class would have already been indited!
There exists only tow types of Citizen:
Natural and Naturalized.
> The constitution requires a person be 35 years of age. Had Churchill been born on US Soil, to two US parents, once he was accepted into Sandhurst, he lost any citizenship status that he may or may not have had. As such he was not a US citzen at the age of 35 and thus was never qualified to be President. Therefore, his example is irrelevant
Since Churchill was not born on “born on US Soil, to two US parents” his acceptance into Sandhurst is irrelevant to your thesis.
bp2, can you clarify for me what this list represents?
It is merely a list of those eligible to vote, or is it a list of registered voters?
The Cruz names have a number attached to them, who assigned these numbers?
Thanks.
Bttt
Pls read the Historical Background chapter
“Reserved for Canadian citizens”
This was pulled from ancestory.canada.com
I can’t link it..its for premium members
And since Churchill was not a citizen at 35, he is irrelevant to the discussion of NBC status for President.
Churchill was the foreign-born child of an American citizen. He was not a citizen. Why? Because the naturalization law did not make him one.
Cruz is the foreign-born child of an American citizen. He is a citizen. Why? Because the naturalization law makes him one.
Cruz is a naturalized citizen.
Again, Churchill is IRRELEVANT to the discussion.
Sen Cruz was born a US Citizen. That is a simple provable fact. You may not want to recognize that, you may want to change that. But is a fact non the less.
Cruz was naturally born a US Citizen, has not been naturalized and has never needed naturalization.
Since Sen Cruz was born a US citizen and has never needed to be naturalized, he is a NBC.
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