Better Business Bureau Confirms: Trump University Had a D- Rating

Townhall.com ^ | March 8, 2016 | Katie Pavlich

[HiTech RedNeck]

Sounds like to complain how bad the Trump business was according to BBB, is nearly meaningless.

[LowOiL]

Thanks, Kelly was right about the D- rating (as was the Wayback Machine screenshot). The only reason Trump University got out of the hole was time (3 year only retention) and shutting down the operation.

Trump tried to pull a fast one by trying to pass off a later internal paper as being from the BBB website.

[SeekAndFind]

RE: Last time we looked, 2014 was an earlier time.

Everything is explained here IN CONTEXT and with timelines:

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2016/mar/08/secret-behind-trump-universitys-rating-doing-nothi/

TITLE:

Secret behind Trump University’s A rating: Doing nothing

[Johnny B.]

A key point is that the Trump cultists told us yesterday that the fax (allegedly) from the BBB was proof-positive that Trump "University" was a legitimate business because, you know, the BBB is totally trustworthy.

Today, the Trump cultists tell us that the BBB is a lying, unscrupulous organization because, you know, they are exposing Trump's lie.

[xzins]

What did he lie about?

[Arm_Bears]

Name the “some” and elaborate on the perceived similarities.

[xzins]

It also had an A+ rating

[PA Engineer]

Your pretty slow others beat you...

Nah. I had your number a couple of months ago.

[PIF]

Really? And what number was that?

[PA Engineer]

Really? And what number was that?

The ozone generation.

[Johnny B.]

"It also had an A+ rating"

Only after it had been out of business for several years, since there were no fresh complaints.

When it was actually in business, that's when it had the D-rating.

[PIF]

Say what?

[xzins]

It changed names. Not out of business

[cynwoody]

That's bogus.

[LowOiL]

3. The document posted on social media on Thursday night was not a current BBB Business Review of Trump University. It appeared to be part of a Business Review from 2014.

Wait 3 years after basically shutting the doors down and you too can have an A rating once again.

Funny even the document you posted proves this. Section "Reason for Rating".

Length of time business has been operating.

Since they were next to doing no business at the time this business memo was put out (2014) and had not been doing much business for over 3 years (3 year limit on complaints), the score by default raises.

Last known rating of Trump University (not some phony Trump made up form years after the fact) is this screenshot from The Wayback machine.

https://web.archive.org/web/20100420184236/http://www.bbb.org/new-york-city/business-reviews/training-programs/trump-university-in-new-york-ny-97075/

We also can confirm that D- rating with two news reports (NY Times and Washington Post) that covered the rating in 2011 (year the University was about wound down...ie closing). (I am too lazy to hunt the liberal news links down right now, but if you google Trump University and Fact check they have the articles linked if you want to read them yourself). At factcheck.org article.

[orinoco]

I wonder what the BBB ratings were for other start up schools of higher learning? I suspect many started out with low ratings made improvements to get higher ratings. How many students began study in a school and decided this was not for them? And how many students start a course and drop out before completion and ask for their money back? It happens all the time and very often. Megyn presented a gotchya question designed to make Trump look bad. This thing is a lot about nothing and does not reflect badly about Trump in any way.

[Carry_Okie]

Having actually watched the clip of Trump presenting the fax, I can say that he never said it was from the BBB directly.

So it was willfully misleading, as opposed to a lie? You don't have to get back to me about that distinction.

[PIF]

Really? Arranging to have a fake note allegedly form some org which makes someone look good does not reflect on the someone?

Other schools are not in question - that is a strawman argument.

DJT look bad from his general lack of specifics, his mercurial position changes, and inability to finish his sentences among many others.

I’m not a supporter of other candidates

[o2bfree]

What’s worse than the BBB issue:

Neil Bush has joined Ted Cruz’s campaign!!!

See USA Today - Jeb’s brother Neil Bush joins Ted Cruz team.

[PIF]

And once more charging into into the who-cares arena ...