Bad news for Ted Cruz: his eligibility for president is going to court

Vox ^ | 02/18/16 | Dara Lind and Jeff Stein

[Cboldt]

The 14th amendment is adequate to disqualify Cruz. It does not do the same for Rubio, and it (the 14th amendment) does not alter or define NBC.

[circlecity]

There’s a reason every candidate does their own internal polling (which they keep to themselves) and doesn’t rely on media polls.

[Tulsa Ramjet]

you sound like and expert in this area as i am not. As for Jarrett, i guess thatwould be right, horribly contemplated. but if the ruling is be born of two american parents, and on American soil, so be it. I am not a Cruz supporter but i dont doubt his loyalty to the U.S.

[iontheball]

It is a Carson supporter who filed this action
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It would have to personally be Carson, not a supporter. Even with Carson it may not be good enough for some slippery Federal judges. I remember in California when Orly filed a challenge with Alan Keyes, who, I think got on the California ballot, but the court nonetheless dismissed on the grounds that he was not a ‘viable’ candidate with any chance of winning so he was not meaningfully harmed. Go figure. Their excuses seem to be boundless. Another consideration, if the challenge is filed by a candidate too late in the campaign cycle, they may apply some type of laches theory to the action. Bottom line, if they can avoid doing their job on this one, they will.

[JayGalt]

"this clause is present in order to prevent a subject of the King of England becoming President"

Why would they want to prevent a subject of the King of England from becoming President? For exactly the same reason that we would not want a President influenced by foreign powers at this time. The question is far from moot!

[GBA]

Ben Carson and the rest are the candidates most hurt by the ineligible candidates Cruz and Rubio being in the race, but the rest of US are hurt more.

The nation's integrity, our nationalism and the very definition of our American identity are the stakes in this card game the demonrats and the republicans have been playing since 2008.

I pray to God that we, the people, finally come to our senses and get back to following The Rules again.

[Cboldt]

Nowhere in my post did I purport to define NBC. What I said was that the 14th amendment disposes of the Cruz case. Cruz is naturalized. Saying a person is naturalized does not define NBC, but defining NBC is not necessary to decide the case of a naturalized person.

[MayflowerMadam]

“Why is Ben Carson still in the race?”

He wants to be. He has the right to be. He is, without doubt, ELIGIBLE to be.

Why are two top candidates whose eligibility is in question still in the race? If they loved America more than themselves, they would step aside and do the right thing instead of subjecting the country to months of future chaos.

[Psalm 144]

I agree on an AG spot for Cruz. Why Kasich, out of curiosity? What do you see there?

Not picking a fight, genuinely curious.

[null and void]

Even strict original intent crowd believe that this clause is present in order to prevent a subject of the King of England becoming President. This issue is moot.

The current occupier was a dual US Citizen (through his mother's citizenship) and British Subject (through his father's citizenship).

It's working out as well for us has having a Corsican leader did for France, an Austrian for Germany, and a Ukrainian for Russia...

[Rennes Templar]

What about Cruz father? Where was he born? What was his nationality? What country was he a citizen of? Where did he live when Cruz was born? Seems like these would have some effect on the outcome.

[Hattie]

That’s nothing. Illegals from anywhere can drop a baby here that is elegible to be Prez because they were born on this soil but no American parent??? Give me Cruz.

[ManHunter]

I’m with you, this is not bad news, despite what the [un]enlightened1 might think. I was actually hoping it would happen sooner.

I just wonder why none of these “Republicans” so concerned with Cruz’s eligibility never challenged Obama’s eligibility...

[Cboldt]

I’ve looked for a docket entry, and have not found one. I waould also like to read the Cruz response. I have sseen the Cruz response and Memorandum of law submitted in the Electoral Board case (below), and am curious what adjustments, if any, were made going to the courthouse.

[hoosiermama]

Carson can personally attach himself to the suit at any time with a paragraph petition to the court.

[Mad Dawgg]

"As a Cruz supporter, I actually see this as good news."

Same here. Get it settled and done with.

AND I like the precedent. ALL candidates should be challenged on their eligibility to be POTUS!

[Tulsa Ramjet]

ok dude, you lost me, so do u think a child born overseas to one american citizen is american or not? what if she was a single mom? i dont have a dog in this commentorial fight and im not an ardent Cruz supporter, but i agree if it is as truly muddles as its being portrayed then the court should rule and we move on.

[Tulsa Ramjet]

ok dude, you lost me, so do u think a child born overseas to one american citizen is american or not? what if she was a single mom? i dont have a dog in this commentorial fight and im not an ardent Cruz supporter, but i agree if it is as truly muddles as its being portrayed then the court should rule and we move on.

[ObozoMustGo2012]

[So he only cares about himself and how he can personally benefit from this. Got it.]

You’re just chapped because because it’s affecting your preferred candidate. Your comment is so transparent.

If Cruz were doing this to Trump or anyone else, you’d be singing his praises.

[deport]

"212. Of the citizens and natives." "The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights.

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And that father in Edward's case would be Cuban or Canadaian, would it not?