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Fact-checking claims about Donald Trump's four bankruptcies
Politifact ^ | September 21st, 2015 | Lauren Carroll, Clayton Youngman

Posted on 02/12/2016 9:07:05 AM PST by AndyJackson

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To: Logical me

I own a small business. I know the game.


41 posted on 02/12/2016 9:39:34 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: AndyJackson

After the order comes down from the court granting chapter 11, the business no longer has control and the creditors hold the keys...basically.


42 posted on 02/12/2016 9:41:11 AM PST by crz
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To: AndyJackson

Trump was personally responsible for the four bankruptcies since they were his deals. While he was responsible, he was not liable for all the losses.


43 posted on 02/12/2016 9:41:19 AM PST by SeaHawkFan
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To: AndyJackson

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Companies_that_have_filed_for_Chapter_11_bankruptcy


44 posted on 02/12/2016 9:46:13 AM PST by crz
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To: AndyJackson
The question I have, would President Trump Threaten to push the U.S. into bankruptcy?
I would love to see China forced to settle for pennies on the dollar for the 1 Trillion+ debt they hold.
45 posted on 02/12/2016 9:46:20 AM PST by Duke C.
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To: AndyJackson

To me the more interesting question is Trump’s decision to be in the casino business in the first place. The “gaming industry” is legalized grifting, not known for attracting towering men of integrity. Owning casinos actually says something about a person’s character imo.


46 posted on 02/12/2016 9:48:52 AM PST by knownfact
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To: SeaHawkFan

“Trump thought TARP was great. Not a conservative position if you ask me.”

That depends entirely on how close the country was to the falling off a cliff.

Details which have never been fully released.

More worrisome is that I don’t see evidence that structural changes were made also.


47 posted on 02/12/2016 9:53:13 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (As a representative of Earth, I officially welcome Global Warming to our planet)
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To: driftdiver

I tend to agree. How easy will it be for him to make poor investments when he is doing it with tax payer money.

Gambling is an addiction that many people struggle with. Making millions of dollars off of people this way raises ethical concerns for me.


48 posted on 02/12/2016 9:53:16 AM PST by longfellowsmuse (last of the living nomads)
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To: C19fan

Babe Ruth is an icon even though he had more Ks than HRs.

Give Donald his due. The new 5 Star hotel in DC being the latest example of his abilities.


49 posted on 02/12/2016 9:54:17 AM PST by Tucker39 (Welcome to America! Now speak English; and keep to the right....In driving, in Faith, and politics.)
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To: driftdiver

So Bankruptcy is a sign of a business man with good business judgement?

wow the spin is getting better and better
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Grow Up! Nothing in life is guaranteed, except DEATH and TAXES.

Experience is the best teacher!
GO TRUMP 2016


50 posted on 02/12/2016 9:54:20 AM PST by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: Mollypitcher1

Yes, and experience tells me not to trust someone who has declared bankruptcy four times.


51 posted on 02/12/2016 9:55:11 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: AndyJackson

Re: “We hear a lot about Trump “stiffing” his bankers...We don’t know the details of the terms except that generally Trump lost a significant part of his personal stake in each.”

Are you claiming that the bankers and other creditors were paid in full after Trump surrendered some, or all, of his equity in these four companies?

I hope not!

If the creditors were paid in full, they would not have gone to court and wasted millions of dollars in legal fees trying to collect.

Since Trump is now worth $4 billion, and since he is now running president, why has Trump failed to do the right thing?

(1) He should publicly disclose the terms of his four bankruptcies.

(2) And Trump should promise to repay every creditor exactly what he still owes them.

In my opinion, unless Trump does those two things, he is morally unfit to be president.


52 posted on 02/12/2016 9:55:38 AM PST by zeestephen
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To: longfellowsmuse

You said it well, gambling.

Many business people can see market shifts and account for them in their plan.

Donald appears to gamble on the shifts and declares bankruptcy if the doesn’t win.


53 posted on 02/12/2016 9:57:06 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: usafa92; MNJohnnie
No worries Andy. MNJohnie is a known Trunp hater and is very vocal about it Let him rant.

No he's not. MNJohnie has been a Trump supporter here.

54 posted on 02/12/2016 9:58:13 AM PST by pgkdan (The Silent Majority Stands With TRUMP!)
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To: C19fan

He has an unusually large number of business failures.


55 posted on 02/12/2016 10:01:07 AM PST by biff
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To: zeestephen
If the creditors were paid in full, they would not have gone to court and wasted millions of dollars in legal fees trying to collect.

You understand nothing about it, clearly. Filing for Chapter 11 in bankruptcy court is how you do all of this.

56 posted on 02/12/2016 10:02:59 AM PST by AndyJackson
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To: AndyJackson
I remember him going bankrupt when he was divorcing his first wife. I've always wondered about the timing!
57 posted on 02/12/2016 10:05:24 AM PST by Ooh-Ah
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To: pgkdan; MNJohnnie

My apologies then to MNJohnnie. Things are getting so crazy around here it’s hard to keep things straight.


58 posted on 02/12/2016 10:09:07 AM PST by usafa92 (Ted Cruz is at most a regional candidate, Donald Trump is a national candidate)
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To: xzins

Re: “In other words, no one was stiffed out of money. Everyone was paid. Trump paid.”

Really?

Trump’s creditors were paid in full?

So, why did Trump and his creditors spend millions of dollars to go to court?

Why didn’t they all sit down in Trump’s office and settle the problem in a couple hours - and for free?


59 posted on 02/12/2016 10:11:24 AM PST by zeestephen
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To: zeestephen

Because chapter 11 goes to court.

Chapter 11 is NOT chapter 7. Look it up.


60 posted on 02/12/2016 10:12:40 AM PST by xzins (Have YOU Donated to the Freep-a-Thon? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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