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Cop who killed college student and 55-year-old mother sues for 'extreme emotional trauma'
WaPo ^ | 02-07-2016 | Peter Holley

Posted on 02/07/2016 11:09:36 AM PST by NRx

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To: dasboot

Hit the target, a moving target I imagine.


41 posted on 02/07/2016 1:09:13 PM PST by Hulka
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To: Hulka

JHP is the safer alternative for LEO’s in urban areas.


42 posted on 02/07/2016 1:09:42 PM PST by dasboot (Angus Khan)
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To: Hulka
Can't see where the police officer should be sued for accidentally killing the lady.

People are sued for causing accidents all the time. Think about someone who negligence might have caused a slip-and-fall accident, for example. Such a person would not be arrested, but he would be sued in civil court.

From reading the article would you have the police officer get his head bashed in instead of taking a reasonable defense of life shot?

I didn't read the article. That's why I made no comment on the legality of shooting baseball bat guy. But I guess if I were on a jury, it would all depend on how far away baseball bat guy was from the cop, if he was threatening the neighbor, and whether or not he was advancing towards the cop.

43 posted on 02/07/2016 1:11:21 PM PST by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: Leaning Right

“I didn’t read the article. That’s why I made no comment on the legality of shooting baseball bat guy. But I guess if I were on a jury, it would all depend on how far away baseball bat guy was from the cop, if he was threatening the neighbor, and whether or not he was advancing towards the cop. “

V.G.!


44 posted on 02/07/2016 1:12:18 PM PST by dasboot (Angus Khan)
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To: dasboot

Maybe. . but if I was shooting at some guy that is trying to bash my head with a baseball bat, no load is too big. . .

The officer carries the round/load his department issues him. Wonder what was the selection process on selecting the round/load.


45 posted on 02/07/2016 1:12:35 PM PST by Hulka
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To: Leaning Right

Understood.

However, in this case, based on the article, negligence was not a factor.

You may use deadly force when defending your life or the life of another. . .so, if the crazy baseball bat wielding thug was swinging on you or some other person, oh well, hate to sound heartless, but too bad for the bad guy.

Cheers.


46 posted on 02/07/2016 1:15:45 PM PST by Hulka
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To: dasboot

Hey. . .it is FR tradition to not read the article.

;-)


47 posted on 02/07/2016 1:16:17 PM PST by Hulka
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To: Hulka

It’s a departmental selection, usually informed by the armorer, who, using the best available stats and research, along with the specific character of the bailiwick, makes the call...subject to Chief’s approval.


48 posted on 02/07/2016 1:19:33 PM PST by dasboot (Angus Khan)
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To: Hulka; dasboot
Hey. . .it is FR tradition to not read the article

It is also a condition of my federal parole.

(just kidding...maybe)

49 posted on 02/07/2016 1:21:13 PM PST by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

You could be right.

Sometimes, though, it seems that whoever can claim to be the victim first gets the advantage.


50 posted on 02/07/2016 1:28:22 PM PST by Zman516 (Truth is the new hate speech -- Thought-Criminal #1)
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To: Zman516

That’s a pretty sick thing. It’s a new level of selfish amorality.


51 posted on 02/07/2016 1:30:02 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Hulka

So often the difference between “may” and “must” gets forgotten. It used to be believed that there was an element of good humanity which we might otherwise know as chivalry. To try to recover a situation with a viewpoint more like God’s than like people’s. Which would take a risk for the sake of lessening the tragedy even of a wrongdoer. This in fact was based on a Christian ethic. But as Christian faith become more and more an empty churchgoing practice, its influence has waned.


52 posted on 02/07/2016 1:33:56 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Bogey78O
Hey everyone, check out the guy who doesn't realize +p ammo isn't LEO only.

Hey everyone, check out the thirteen year old girl being an @ss.

53 posted on 02/07/2016 1:37:44 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Hulka
“Cops are actually allowed extra-powerful loads,” Cite the law on that, please. And what is an “extra-powerful” round? What is an illegal “extra-powerful” round?

+P, in California.

You know the gunpowder pushes the bullet out, right? That can be made more powerful. It's a physics thing, don't let it worry your little head. And as for gun laws, you've heard of California, right? It's the State on the left coast. Look it up.

54 posted on 02/07/2016 1:41:17 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Hulka; Bogey78O
"Some of these JHP rounds, such as the Ranger-T, are 'LE only' by manufacturer's policy. I double-checked this with ace researcher Gary Slider at the blue-chip resource site handgunlaw.us, and neither he nor I know of anywhere outside San Francisco where it's actually against the local law to use them."

You mean you didn't know already? You had to ask an ace researcher? And the ammo is, in fact, restricted to LE only by the manufacturer? And actually illegal in San Francisco, California?

Fancy that.

55 posted on 02/07/2016 1:45:19 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
It used to be believed that there was an element of good humanity which we might otherwise know as chivalry.

Nicely phrased.

56 posted on 02/07/2016 1:45:23 PM PST by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: B4Ranch
Google “+P law enforcement load” and you’ll understand where Talisker is coming from.

Thanks. That's exactly where I was coming from. Too many trigger happy idiots around here, blasting away with friendly fire.

57 posted on 02/07/2016 1:55:25 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Bogey78O
All the Law Officer nomenclature does is signify a higher quality is used to ensure performance reliability.

Then why do manufacturers restrict it to LEOs? To deny quality and reliability to everyone else?

Of course not. That higher quality is used to ensure measurably higher fps, as you well know. Stop lying.

58 posted on 02/07/2016 2:05:21 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Talisker

You paint with an extraordinarily broad brush. Off the rails of reason.


59 posted on 02/07/2016 2:11:20 PM PST by dasboot (Angus Khan)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Privilege abused becomes a liability sooner or later. It is an ironclad rule of this moral universe.

It seems that way... it's almost that anything taken to an extreme becomes corrupted.

60 posted on 02/07/2016 2:12:00 PM PST by GOPJ (Allowing illegals to stay is the same as the United States paying kidnappers...)
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