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Psychology: Deradicalizing Muslim terrorists (very interesting)
nocompulsion.com ^ | Nicolai Sennels

Posted on 01/30/2016 4:43:51 AM PST by RoosterRedux

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To: vette6387
ALL Muslims must, at the minimum, be “repatriated” to their respective ME $hithole countries.

Too late for that. U.S. prisons are full of American muslims. And Obama is going to release many of them before he leaves office.

101 posted on 01/30/2016 8:57:12 AM PST by RoosterRedux (When a man loves cats, I am his friend and comrade, without further introduction. - Mark Twain)
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To: Gritty
Walid Shoebat and Joel Richardson believe islam is the religion from which the AntiChrist will arise. And it is the muslims he will lead in his attack on Israel.

Taking it a little farther down the road, Shoebat and Richardson make a strong case for islam not actually having been newly introduced by Mohammed. They posit that islam is actually Baal/Aphrodite worship repackaged.

102 posted on 01/30/2016 9:08:22 AM PST by RoosterRedux (When a man loves cats, I am his friend and comrade, without further introduction. - Mark Twain)
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To: RoosterRedux

US


103 posted on 01/30/2016 9:10:44 AM PST by amorphous
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To: RoosterRedux

“But how to make a violent Muslim peaceful?”

A 55 gr jacketed soft point at 3,100 FPS through the brain pan works on individuals and small groups. For large gatherings ionizing radiation and blast over pressures generated by something in the 50 kiloton range would work equally well.

L


104 posted on 01/30/2016 9:19:41 AM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: RoosterRedux

BKMK


105 posted on 01/30/2016 9:24:51 AM PST by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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To: amorphous

Well, that’s what I have always thought but I will have to say that as I near the end of Shoebat’s and Richardson’s book I am more open to the possibility that the ultimate battle will be between Israel and islam (Sarah and Hagar).


106 posted on 01/30/2016 9:25:04 AM PST by RoosterRedux (When a man loves cats, I am his friend and comrade, without further introduction. - Mark Twain)
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To: RoosterRedux

We need “A Clockwork Orange” for muslims.


107 posted on 01/30/2016 9:39:17 AM PST by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: RoosterRedux
I am more open to the possibility that the ultimate battle will be between Israel and islam (Sarah and Hagar).

As of now, I too see Islam playing a major role. Perhaps even the ultimate role, depending upon what remains after MB/DB is taken out early in the end time scenario I currently envision.

Realistically, given a time frame of 5 years or less, I see Islam as a partner with something like the UN or NATO in the final battle against Israel, and perhaps a Western Remanent of some form or other. I don't think there is time enough for Islam to become the "one world government", though it's well on its way to doing so.

If the US, China, and Russia engage in a major exchange of nuclear weapons (ref: MB destroyed in one hour) then Islam may indeed rise up to become the dominate one world government. I see Islam as uniquely positioned to do so. Contributing will be Indonesia, the world's largest Islamic nation - childhood home of Obama.

Many things are converging now - all pointing toward this period in time as the beginning of a new age, as prophesied - NOT the "end of the world" as so many mistakenly believe.

108 posted on 01/30/2016 9:56:06 AM PST by amorphous
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To: amorphous
Shoebat makes a very interesting point when he says that because he was raised as a muslim (in Bethlehem, of all places) and is now a Christian convert, a lot of the Biblical symbolism is familiar.

He suggests that Westerners who study prophecy have a built in bias to see it through Western eyes whereas he sees it through Israeli and muslim eyes.

In his book "God's War on Terror," he sets Biblical prophecy sided by side with the Quran and Hadiths.

They line up perfectly with the Quran and Hadiths being a perverted mirror image of Biblical prophecy.

If you haven't read his book (w/Richardson), check out the reviews at the link above.

It was the reviews that convinced me to read it.

There are a few errors in it as might be expected (for example, he overestimates the size/power of the Turkish military - says it is second only to that of the U.S. - simply not true).

109 posted on 01/30/2016 10:37:12 AM PST by RoosterRedux (When a man loves cats, I am his friend and comrade, without further introduction. - Mark Twain)
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To: RoosterRedux
Shoebat and Richardson... posit that islam is actually Baal/Aphrodite worship repackaged.

Quite likely. There is excellent Biblical precedent for that as well as the solution.

But of the cities of these peoples which the Lord your God gives you as an inheritance, you shall let nothing that breathes remain alive, but you shall utterly destroy them... just as the Lord your God has commanded you, lest they teach you to do according to all their abominations which they have done for their gods, and you sin against the Lord your God. Deuteronomy 20:16-18

There are many other Biblical references covering this command.

We obviously are choosing to ignore the mortal danger to ourselves and our way of life.

110 posted on 01/30/2016 10:48:00 AM PST by Gritty (Syrians aren't Jews fleeing Nazi Holocaust but Nazis relocating from a bombed out Berlin-DGreenfield)
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To: amorphous

Amen!


111 posted on 01/30/2016 12:02:52 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: RoosterRedux

I am reminded of that domesticated chimpanzee who lived with a woman in Connecticut for many years; then one day attacked her best friend and ate her face and hand off.


112 posted on 01/30/2016 12:36:02 PM PST by Albion Wilde (Who can actually defeat the Democrats in 2016? -- the most important thing about all candidates.)
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To: RoosterRedux
I have read their book and agree with you:

There are a few errors in it as might be expected (for example, he overestimates the size/power of the Turkish military - says it is second only to that of the U.S. - simply not true).

I find he mostly errs when he attempts to push his theory of MB/DB being a country in the M.E. Other than that, I think he has a very good grasp on much of how this may play out to some extent.

No one can know exactly how it will play out, even though many claim to. There's just too much complexity and room for misinterpretation, for a ton of reasons; one being the exact time frame it takes place in. Another is the fact much is hidden for very good reason, by the Almighty himself, to be revealed only at the proper time.

113 posted on 01/30/2016 1:39:45 PM PST by amorphous
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To: MamaTexan
You can't have freedom of religion AND make one particular religion 'illegal'.... no matter how abhorrent or whacked-out someone else believes that religion to be.

MamaTexan, as you know, I have a lot of respect for your knowledge of Constitutional history. Actually, I think there is a way one can exclude Islam from the social contract, because Islam excludes itself. Consider this argument I've been making for about the last five years:

The Constitution is a social contract among "We the people of the United States of America." Muslims have NO INTENTION of ever respecting that social contract. To them, you are not deserving respect for your rights or the Constitution as a fellow citizen participant in that contract. They believe that you lower than dirt, infidel. They are using YOUR respect for the Constitution against you, and laughing up their sleeves at what they intend to do to civic respect for your unalienable rights once they wield power, because they have every intention of subsuming the Constitution to Sharia. They are therefore not participants in that social contract at all, and are therefore undeserving of its protections. Whaddya think?
114 posted on 01/30/2016 3:00:14 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: MamaTexan; Travis McGee; GladesGuru
BTW, I wish to add that Muslims are not only not participants in the Constitutional social contract, they are bound to Sharia, yet another social contract that stands in opposition to the first, one that specifically commits them to violate the Constitution; else they face the penalty of death for apostasy.

Frankly, to my mind, to be a Muslim is to renounce one's US citizenship.

115 posted on 01/30/2016 3:16:13 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: MamaTexan

It is not a religion. It is a methodology used for subversion and conquest.


116 posted on 01/30/2016 5:06:50 PM PST by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: Travis McGee

Obviously your “caption” is intended sarcastically, but it is informative to keep in mind the tale of Sir Charles James Napier and his position on the Indian practice of suttee.


117 posted on 01/30/2016 5:20:21 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: MamaTexan
I gave a viable and Constitutional solution earlier in the thread - people from muslim countries can be expelled NOT because they're muslim, but because they come from countries that harbor terrorists...

How would your solution deal with a fanatical jihadist born-and-raised in a historically-Christian Western European country?

118 posted on 01/30/2016 5:27:40 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring

See posts 114-115.


119 posted on 01/30/2016 5:58:07 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: MamaTexan; Carry_Okie; miss marmelstein; usconservative; Travis McGee; GladesGuru; RoosterRedux; ...
And do you understand - THE CONSTITUTION IS NOT TO BE DISCARDED SIMPLY BECAUSE YOU FIND IT INCONVENIENT?

You either adhere to it...TOTALLY, or it becomes meaningless.

Yes, this is true.

Allow me to cut through the Gordian Knot on this for you, MamaTexan:

Islam does not recognize the Natural Rights of Man.

The Natural Rights of Man are the foundation and basis of the US Constitution. Since the Muslims don't recognize the Natural Rights of Man, they don't recognize the US Constitution - nor do they recognize the Declaration, either [I'm a Declarationist].

I myself maintain that Muslims cannot be US citizens. Some would say that's an extreme view, but if you pinned any Muslim down on those natty ol' Rights, you'd find your answer. They can't accept the the primacy of the Declaration and the Constitution over their religion.

After this determination, the "question" of their religion is superfluous.

120 posted on 01/30/2016 7:28:14 PM PST by kiryandil ("When Muslims in the White House are outlawed, only Barack Obama will be an outlaw")
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