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Trump's Support for Ethanol Is Bad for Taxpayers and Their Cars
The National Review ^ | January 21, 2016 | Jillian Kay Melchior

Posted on 01/21/2016 2:17:48 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: Neoliberalnot
You are not forced to buy ETOH, so stop lying about it.

Excuse me, but that is what a mandate IS. They are REQUIRED BY LAW to blend a specified amount of ethanol into the gasoline. Unless you don't drive, you have to buy the ethanol. So the oil refiners are REQUIRED to buy the ethanol. There is no way around it.

261 posted on 01/21/2016 12:03:10 PM PST by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: trebb

Good post.


262 posted on 01/21/2016 1:15:57 PM PST by Lumper20 ( clown in Chief has own Gov employees Gestapo)
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To: Leto

Opinions are just that. We each have our own. Bob Dole is fine with me. He beats most today. We will see who loses and I want the America back that I knew before Cruz was born. Cruz took money from two queer hotel owners in NYC. There has to be something to that.


263 posted on 01/21/2016 1:23:02 PM PST by Lumper20 ( clown in Chief has own Gov employees Gestapo)
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To: CA Conservative

There is a station 15 miles from my house that sells straight premium. Go electric, or mass transit,especially in CA. People without cars in big cities don’t buy it— is the law after them. No, because no one forces them to buy it.


264 posted on 01/21/2016 1:57:58 PM PST by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: CA Conservative

Do you own a refinery? No, so no one is forcing you to buy ETOH.


265 posted on 01/21/2016 1:59:53 PM PST by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: Lumper20

But when Cruz visited the homosexula hotel owners he didn’t change position unlike Trump who has flipped flopped over the last couple of years. Trump has no convictions beyond people stroking his huge ego.


266 posted on 01/21/2016 2:00:11 PM PST by Leto
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To: Neoliberalnot
But the government is forcing SOMEONE to buy ethanol.
267 posted on 01/21/2016 2:01:27 PM PST by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: Neoliberalnot
Can we keep it on an adult level?

I don't know. Can you?

268 posted on 01/21/2016 2:22:14 PM PST by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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To: Neoliberalnot
OK ... I see that you cannot keep it on an adult level.

'bye.

269 posted on 01/21/2016 2:23:03 PM PST by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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To: Neoliberalnot

Wow you really are clueless on this subject.


270 posted on 01/21/2016 3:40:32 PM PST by Dusty Road (")
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To: Leto

We do not know what he said. I doubt queers would host a fundraiser plus give substantially unless they were given a deal.


271 posted on 01/22/2016 1:29:22 AM PST by Lumper20 ( clown in Chief has own Gov employees Gestapo)
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To: Dusty Road

So inform me about leases on public lands.


272 posted on 01/22/2016 4:20:57 AM PST by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: Lumper20

We don’t know the meeting with the homosexual hotel guys was a fundraiser, fot a link for that assertion?


273 posted on 01/22/2016 4:51:13 AM PST by Leto
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To: Neoliberalnot

When I said ALL, I meant ALL.

It wouldn’t JUST be subsidies, it’s got to be a return of the Free Market.

We’d also have to strip out all that which govt does to benefit one over another. Monopolies (too big to fail) cannot exist w/out govt. torquing the system.

The only reason it’s cheaper to make/ship from China is the corp. tax rate, EPA, OSHA, unions, regs, HCare...all the GOVT.

If milk costs $7/gal, it costs $7/gal. But, *I* have the freedom to choose WHEN/IF I buy at that price.


274 posted on 01/22/2016 5:00:55 AM PST by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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To: i_robot73

I’m fine with that.


275 posted on 01/22/2016 7:33:57 AM PST by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; DB; RC one

Actually, the link norwaypinesavage sent is from Auburn but is about irrigated corn grown on the high dry plains in Texas, a poor place to grow corn anyway. Most corn of course is dry land raised and the article provides some good science-based evidence, not the left’s usual attack on private businesses. The following is straight out of the executive summary of the article and is supportive of what I have written. “l.1 A more comprehensive analysis by USDA found a 34% net energy gain,2 rising to 67% after accounting for co- product energy credits.3 The consensus is that dryland production of corn results in a net energy gain of 30-70%, depending on soil productivity, production practices, and distillation technology”. Thanks for sending the link.


276 posted on 01/22/2016 11:23:59 AM PST by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: sitetest

RC one is simply defending his livelihood. What business are you in. Read the following and let us know what you think? Actually, the link norwaypinesavage sent is from Auburn but is about irrigated corn grown on the high dry plains in Texas, a poor place to grow corn anyway. Most corn of course is dry land raised and the article provides some good science-based evidence, not the left’s usual attack on private businesses. The following is straight out of the executive summary of the article and is supportive of what I have written. “l.1 A more comprehensive analysis by USDA found a 34% net energy gain,2 rising to 67% after accounting for co- product energy credits.3 The consensus is that dryland production of corn results in a net energy gain of 30-70%, depending on soil productivity, production practices, and distillation technology”. Thanks for sending the link.


277 posted on 01/22/2016 11:31:06 AM PST by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: Neoliberalnot

If it were that good economically, it wouldn’t need a mandate.


278 posted on 01/22/2016 1:05:29 PM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: sitetest

The mandate was to reduce dependence on oil sold to the U.S. By our enemies that fund terrorism. What business are you in?


279 posted on 01/22/2016 4:29:31 PM PST by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: Neoliberalnot

If ethanol is so wonderful, who needs a mandate? We seem to have a lot of untapped energy in the US. The biggest problem is the anti-American kenyan antichrist.

What does it matter what business I’m in? Your question sounds rather intrusive and demanding.

What business are you in?

If you really wanted to know my “business” (which is none of yours), you could easily look through my old posts. I’ve been here 18 years.


280 posted on 01/22/2016 6:42:41 PM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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