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Donald Trump Ramps Up Attacks on Ted Cruz’s Eligibility
NY Times ^ | 1/9/16 | Trip Gabriel and Matt Flegenheimer

Posted on 01/09/2016 8:42:14 PM PST by randita

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To: Cold Heat
You really have no clue. Now sitting during drafting of the Constitution.  photo image_zps6esr5a2x.png
481 posted on 01/13/2016 3:43:30 PM PST by bushpilot2
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To: bushpilot2

Founders used Vattel to justify combining the Colonies, their revolution, and was used help them draft the Constitution.

Several of the Bill of Rights comes from Vattel.

I erred on the 1775 date and drafting Constitution. Typing.

There’s chapter in Vattel devoted to forming a Constitution.


482 posted on 01/13/2016 3:54:17 PM PST by bushpilot2
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To: Cboldt

Read a few days ago there were ‘antenatus’ citizens.


483 posted on 01/13/2016 3:58:35 PM PST by bushpilot2
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To: bushpilot2

I did not say they did not read or use the book.

What I said was that they did not use it to write that amendment.

What I said was that it’s you who has no clue as to the interpretation then and now.


484 posted on 01/13/2016 4:44:59 PM PST by Cold Heat
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To: Cboldt

Anyone serving their country in uniform can not be held to have quitted their country and their allegiance to that country. The only way a child born of someone serving in the military abroad is of that person who is serving married a foreigner while in a foreign country. Otherwise, according to the law, a child born to 2 US citizen parents while in service to their country abroad, that child IS a natural born citizen and anyone who says otherwise and NOT done their due diligence. And this is why McCain was eligible, it had nothing to do with where he was born but everything to do with who he was born to.


485 posted on 01/13/2016 5:53:42 PM PST by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: TomasUSMC
"Legal gibberish" you say ?
Not at all !
It IS SIMPLE. Just look up the DEFINITION GIVEN TO US BY OUR FOUNDING FATHERS on the 1790 Act.
The Definition was clarified by our FOUNDING FATHERS in the 1790 Act.
And it was reinstated by the Act in 1802.
So, take it up with the Supreme Court of the United States and our Founding Fathers.

TED CRUZ is by far, the MOST CONSERVATIVE CANDIDATE we've got ! So there is the law for the time Ted Cruz was born,
AND HOW Ted Cruz's PARENTS fulfilled ALL those requirements of the law that time, for Ted Cruz to be a "Natural Born Citizen".
Ted Cruz did NOT NEED a Court and a Judge to "Nationalize" him.


486 posted on 01/13/2016 5:55:18 PM PST by Yosemitest (It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Cold Heat

Thankfully we have no need to request any money back from the IRS because no one files any of those pesky information forms with my name or my spouses name claiming that our little business has anything to do with federal government related activities. All our business careers we were the ones who ignorantly reported ourselves and when we discovered the truth, we quit reporting to the IRS that which we were not required to and they have left us alone for over 10 yrs now even though they know we are still in business because of all the other taxes we are required to pay such as 2290 highway use tax and the unified carrier registration fee we are required to file and pay annually.

“One way to know the value of something is by the effort made to protect it”

Have a nice evening


487 posted on 01/13/2016 6:01:08 PM PST by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: Cboldt

I was chatting with a lawyer the other day on this matter and he predicted that one day a US citizen baby born abroad adopted by a US citizen couple, might run for president a cause quite a stir.


488 posted on 01/13/2016 6:12:52 PM PST by Cold Heat
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To: Cold Heat
The constitution will be amended to allow naturalized citizens to hold the office. The next phase will be whether nationals (aka "almost citizens") can hold the office.

Think of all the saved time, no more arguing over the meaning of NBC, native-born, Vattel, and all that old, dead, white guy garbage.

489 posted on 01/13/2016 6:32:43 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: Yosemitest

Thanks for all the information. And Cruz is a great American.

I still prefer someone born in the U.S.A. Raised by two parents born in the USA. A President should be born in the Country he will lead....... Thats just....well......

Natural.


490 posted on 01/13/2016 8:54:26 PM PST by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, WIN LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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To: TomasUSMC
And your choice IS ? ? ?
I certainly hope it is NOT a SOCIALIST, like one who LOVES "EMINENT DOMAIN FOR PRIVATE USE" !

491 posted on 01/13/2016 9:53:16 PM PST by Yosemitest (It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: TomasUSMC
ARE YOU REFUSING the definition of "natural born citizen" CLEARLY DEFINED by our FOUNDING FATHERS ?
It was defined for the United States, BY OUR FOUNDING FATHERS !

The Naturalization Act of 1790, let's read it !

As the article U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Laws and Issues: A Documentary History The men who drafted the U.S. Constitution in the summer of 1788 realized that citizenship was bound to become an issue.
...Consequently, Article I, Section 8 of the new Constitution listed the powers given to the new Congress.
The third item on the list was the power to "establish a uniform rule of naturalization ... throughout the United States."
A year after the Constitution was adopted, Congress passed the first law that established a "uniform rule of naturalization": The Act of March 26, 1790.
The act was just the first in a series of laws addressing the issue of naturalization, ...

In January 1795, the act of 1790 was repealed and replaced by another law. ...
In 1798, the law on naturalization was changed again. ...
After Jefferson became president (in 1801), the 1798 naturalization law was repealed, or overturned (in 1802).
The basic provisions of the original 1790 law WERE RESTORED except for the period of residency before naturalization.
The residency requirement, that is, the amount of time the immigrant had to reside, or live, in the United States, was put back to five years, as it had been in 1795.
The 1802 law remained the basic naturalization act until 1906, with two notable exceptions.
In 1855, the wives of American citizens were automatically granted citizenship.
In 1870, people of African descent could become naturalized citizens, in line with constitutional amendments passed after the American Civil War (1861–65) that banned slavery and gave African American men the right to vote.
Other laws were passed to limit the number of people (if any) allowed to enter the United States from different countries, especially Asian countries,
but these laws did not affect limits on naturalization.
Remember: Now, YOU either respect the LAW AS WRITTEN ,
    OR YOU DON'T !

492 posted on 01/13/2016 10:32:33 PM PST by Yosemitest (It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
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