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Professional Pandering -- Desperate Cruz, Dependent on Iowa, Flip-Flops on Ethanol Subsidies...
Conservative Treehouse ^ | 1/06/2015 | Sundance

Posted on 01/06/2016 5:30:43 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans

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To: roamer_1
"Wait. That's like... 'thinking'. Whoa."

It'll pop your springs if you aren't used to it.

321 posted on 01/07/2016 4:08:01 PM PST by CatherineofAragon ("Ted Cruz is the type of guy to swim across a moat with a knife in his teeth. He knows how to fight")
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To: Norm Lenhart
Fixed it. And you voted for him.

What Cruz said about immigration during his March 23rd announcement speech, and what he said for months afterwards bears no resemblance to what he is now saying after Trump has for a few months taken the issue to a place no one else had, or would have taken it. Cruz is tagging along behind Trump, modifying his "highly principled" positions to try and catch up with the real leader on the issues of this campaign.

I've seldom seen some Freepers act so silly as to try and pretend that Cruz has led on the immigration, or any principle issue of this campaign. Ethanol is a minor side show with all that is at stake related to immigration and trade policy, where we all know Trump has taken the lead since the day of his late June announcement.

322 posted on 01/09/2016 12:24:11 PM PST by Will88
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To: Will88

Only silly if you ignore his actual history and blot out the parts that you don’t want to see.

I know of no Cruzers saying he was perfect. But I will note that many people blasting us for ‘purity’ sure seem to want it.


323 posted on 01/09/2016 12:33:18 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Existential Cage Theory - An idea whose time has come)
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To: Norm Lenhart

In a presidential campaign, one listens to a candidate’s stance on the issues as presented during the campaign. And then one decides who to believe, and what to believe.

I simply do not trust Cruz on immigration or trade issues. He’s just like Rubio, always giving emotional talks about his family’s personal immigration story. People that wrapped up in the emotions of the immigrant story are unlikely to be the ones to implement sensible policies where the US must say no far more often than it says yes to the millions who want to come here. Otherwise, we are headed for open borders and no one will be able to turn it back unless current policies are changed soon.

Cruz is just one more globalist, open borders sort on immigration and trade. I don’t believe his occasional mentions of border security and enforcing the law. We also got that from W and Juan McCain during their campaigns.


324 posted on 01/09/2016 12:41:09 PM PST by Will88
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To: Will88

And I don’t believe a guy that gets most of his products made in China is any less a globalist.


325 posted on 01/09/2016 12:53:48 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Existential Cage Theory - An idea whose time has come)
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And I don’t believe a guy that gets most of his products made in China is any less a globalist.

The apparel industry has largely left the US for cheap labor nations. Trump was in no position to reverse that by endorsing a line of men's clothing. Maybe there were sewing plants in the US to produce his clothing line, or maybe there weren't. - Proves nothing.

He has to use suppliers that are available, even for material to construct hotels. As president, he'd be in a position to reverse some of those trends.

326 posted on 01/09/2016 1:14:03 PM PST by Will88
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To: Will88

Not really the point is it? Globalism is globalism. If you want to call Cruz a globalist, then Don is and moreso.

Can’t have it both ways.


327 posted on 01/09/2016 1:30:46 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Existential Cage Theory - An idea whose time has come)
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To: Norm Lenhart
All of what is called globalism came about as a result of US government policy, as it has affected the US economy and demographics. Trump's positions in this campaign have been anti-globalist. Cruz's positions have been pro-globalists until he began to react to Trump and the general anti-globalist sentiment of much of the US population.

Where Trump's ties and other clothing items might be produced is a reflection of past government decisions, not of any policy position of Trump's. There is only a remnant of an apparel industry still in the US. Apparel plants were once present in most southern cities only two or three decades ago and now there are almost none.

328 posted on 01/09/2016 1:44:19 PM PST by Will88
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To: Will88

And? All that foreign investment has little to do with helping reestablish American industry.

Personally I don’t blame Trump. But the point is that if you are gonna call ‘globalist’ then the echo is coming right back at you.


329 posted on 01/09/2016 1:48:10 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Existential Cage Theory - An idea whose time has come)
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To: Norm Lenhart
Personally I don’t blame Trump. But the point is that if you are gonna call ‘globalist’ then the echo is coming right back at you.<
330 posted on 01/09/2016 3:33:15 PM PST by Will88
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To: Norm Lenhart
Personally I dont blame Trump. But the point is that if you are gonna call globalist then the echo is coming right back at you.

The real question is what would any given candidate do if he or she became president. Everyone has to decide what they want in a president and then which candidate they think will deliver the most of what they want.

331 posted on 01/09/2016 4:22:20 PM PST by Will88
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