Russia says ISIS are using chemical weapons in Syria after UN confirm discovery of deadly gases

mirror.co.uk ^ | 16:00, 5 Jan 2016 | Jessica Haworth

[UCANSEE2]

I just think these are old stories that after years later we kind of know now what Iraq was up to.

Oddly, everyone seems to still disagree on that.

Syria had it sown chemical weapons.

True.

But in this case ISIS is making them fresh from chemicals they buy in Turkey.

True.

Where was Saddam getting the chemicals he used to make weapons ?

[Trumpinator]

Where was Saddam getting the chemicals he used to make weapons ? From the USA and Western Europe. These are dual use chemicals in their individual ingredients. It is how they are mixed that makes them deadly. Bleach and Ammonia mixed together make mustard gas for example.

[UCANSEE2]

Since what we ‘think’ we knew then, and what we ‘think’ we know now are horses of two different colors, then as you say, argument over it seems pointless.

So... do you believe what the Russians are saying about ISIS using chemical weapons now ?

[Trumpinator]

Yes, because it was verified by a UN report as well.

[UCANSEE2]

From the USA and Western Europe.

Agreed. Further, I think that wasn't the only things he got from us and Western Europe.

Bleach and Ammonia mixed together make mustard gas for example.

I can personally attest to that.

[UCANSEE2]

I might remind you that the UN also said Bashar al-Assad was using chemical weapons on ISIS.

[Trumpinator]

I might remind you that the UN also said Bashar al-Assad was using chemical weapons on ISIS.

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2320223/UN-accuses-Syrian-rebels-carrying-sarin-gas-attacks-blamed-Assads-troops.html

UN accuses Syrian rebels of carrying out sarin gas attacks which had been blamed on Assad’s troops

Carla Del Ponte said UN Commission investigating war crimes in Syria has ‘strong, concrete suspicions’ that rebels used chemical weapons

Her remarks contradict statements by the U.S. and UK which said intelligence indicated Syrian soldiers used the weapons

Today fighting continued across Syria as rebels advanced on a northern airbase and shot down helicopter in the east

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2320223/UN-accuses-Syrian-rebels-carrying-sarin-gas-attacks-blamed-Assads-troops.html#ixzz3waKJzabJ
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[UCANSEE2]

Thanks for the link and info.

You are correct. It was the US and UK that blamed Assad. I thought the UN was involved in that as well.

I guess it shows I have a subconscious bias against the UN. “: )

[Trumpinator]

You are correct. It was the US and UK that blamed Assad. I thought the UN was involved in that as well.

I guess it shows I have a subconscious bias against the UN. “: )

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The US tried to get the UN to blame Assad - hence the investigation by the UN. Obama thought the UN would serve as its mouthpiece and Putin would be silent like he was during Libya - but the opposite happened.