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Why are FReepers rallying around a crony socialist?

Posted on 12/24/2015 7:07:28 AM PST by dangus

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To: dangus

Pauline Kael was a film critic, not a socialite.


61 posted on 12/24/2015 7:45:26 AM PST by Lisbon1940 (No full-term governors)
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To: Axeslinger

I don’t deny there is risk. He has to remain true to his present words. The only concrete indicators I have that he is for real, is the vociferousness of his Elitist enemies.

The OP’s points seem to be diminished by refutations downthread...

Like I said, this is a dice throw, but I think it’s all we’ve realistically got.


62 posted on 12/24/2015 7:46:41 AM PST by Lazamataz (It has gotten to the point where any report from standard news outlets must be fact-checked.)
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To: dangus

If it were not for Trump getting in we would most likely have Jeb! as the leader and be discussing exactly how he would implement amnesty. The Jeb! strategy of sucking the donor money away from the other candidates would likely have worked. The GOPe would be happy with things and President Clinton would be a done deal because Jeb! could never beat Hillary. We would be looking at another 4 years of status quo. That is what you would prefer? I think that Trump has done a great service by showing candidates how to beat the media and eposing the GOPe for what they are.


63 posted on 12/24/2015 7:46:52 AM PST by jospehm20
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To: C. Edmund Wright
do not expect a single response defending what you mention above....but your motives, your ties to Rove, your mama, and everything else will be fair game.

What's the point of having to explain the extent of the Media/Uniparty control of the presidential election process to someone who's been on Free Republic since 2003?

If they don't get it by now, they'll NEVER get it.

You have an excuse. You've only been here since 2010. :)

64 posted on 12/24/2015 7:49:10 AM PST by kiryandil ("When Muslims in the White House are outlawed, only Barack Obama will be an outlaw")
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

“Trump has never given to Hillary or to other federal candidates.”

Oh, just a $100,000 donation to the Clinton Foundation.

Also, he donated mainly to the Democratic senate and congressional campaign committees, not individual candidates, so your carefully parsed answer, while technically correct, leaves out vital information that paints a very different picture.


65 posted on 12/24/2015 7:49:23 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: Lazamataz

Maybe I just need a few DT fans to private message me and tell me ‘we know he isn’t conservative, we know he has a very ‘mixed’ political past (I am being polite), but I think he would shake things up in a good way’.

I don’t know that I can vote for DT in the general. But I can vote against a socialist every time.

Thanks.


66 posted on 12/24/2015 7:49:43 AM PST by LearnsFromMistakes (Yes, I am happy to see you. But that IS a gun in my pocket.)
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To: Nervous Tick

I can honestly say I do not know what I would do. But not out of being a sore loser as some other nitwit posited. I truly believe with every fiber of my being that trump would go down as one of the biggest disasters to ever befall this country. I believe that ultimately there will be a hair’s breadth of difference between he and Hillary.

Being a Conservative is being guided by some deeply held convictions...that we are endowed by our Creator, that the government that governs least governs best, that power centrally consolidated the farthest away from the people is power to be distrusted, feared and fought against. Donald Trumps own statements show that he believes none of those.


67 posted on 12/24/2015 7:49:49 AM PST by Axeslinger (Where has my country gone?)
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To: Boogieman
"Because it is not about Socialist vs. Capitalist any more."

Speak for yourself. Until the last Marxist is pushing up daisies, it's always going to be about that for me.

It's okay, I understand the penchant to keep that wartime mindset. I was a Cold War Baby myself. However, I won't make the mistake of some generals in World War I and World War II. I won't fight the last war. I will fight, instead, the current one.

68 posted on 12/24/2015 7:49:50 AM PST by Lazamataz (It has gotten to the point where any report from standard news outlets must be fact-checked.)
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To: dangus
NOT THIS FREEPER
69 posted on 12/24/2015 7:50:34 AM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: dangus

“Why are FReepers rallying around a crony socialist?”

At this point, Cruz supporters, it’s almost nearing time for some of you to be placed openly on the same side of the Democrats and the GOPe.

You are really skirting a fine line of echoing their talking points and secretly cheering their efforts on, and it is fast turning off many of us to even considering supporting Cruz if he actually manages to win the nomination.

Because what they do to Trump (supposedly a Democrat socialist), is what they will do to Cruz. Some of you are to stupid and snobbish to realize it, or realize that Trump is the only reason Cruz is even where he is today.


70 posted on 12/24/2015 7:51:32 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: GOPJ
No one will EVER be conservative enough for FReepers. Patton could be resurrected and nominated and people would STILL rail against him saying he is too "crony capitalist" or "socialist" or some other gripe. Trump and/or Cruz would be ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE better than Bernie Sanders or Hitlery...

People who can deny that simple fact are either 1. disingenuous, or 2. willfully ignorant

71 posted on 12/24/2015 7:51:37 AM PST by EnigmaticAnomaly ("With the demonrats in charge, we find ourselves living in an ineptocracy.")
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To: driftdiver

Light yeas ahead? Where are all his accomplishments in the Senate? Why is he hated by his fellow senators? Why is he attached to the CoC and supports more H1B “workers” to take jobs from Americans?
His”Brilliance” goes right along with Mitch McConnell against his own advisers and then cries like a baby when he’s caught and makes excuses that McConnell lied. His Brilliance did not show him something he should have known all along....he was in the senate long enough to know.....that McConnell is Obama’s pal and will do anything to get Obama what he wants.I would a hundred times more prefer to have Trump negotiating for me and for this country than a stiff shirt who can’t even read his own cohorts in crime.


72 posted on 12/24/2015 7:53:36 AM PST by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: VanDeKoik

Agreed.


73 posted on 12/24/2015 7:53:43 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: dangus; editor-surveyor; cripplecreek; Finny; CatherineofAragon; caww; FourPeas; sitetest; dead
Why are FReepers rallying around a crony socialist?

This FReeper certainly is not. I think Trump would be a disaster, such a disaster, that I can tell you, believe me.

74 posted on 12/24/2015 7:54:32 AM PST by Charles Henrickson (Social and constitutional conservative)
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To: Axeslinger

‘trumpeters’ as applied to Donal Trump supporter is a trade mark and copy write held by the PIF, but under special dispensary rules and because its Christmas - go for it. And thanks for the assist.


75 posted on 12/24/2015 7:54:48 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: dangus
Please, if you think I'm an idiot, don't just tell me I'm an idiot. Tell me where you think I'm wrong.

You're wrong because you think the people supporting Trump's campaign don't know what they are doing.

For most of us, Trump is not our first choice (I prefer Cruz).

The fact is: If Trump drops out, or Cruz takes the lead, the media will pulverize Cruz in a matter of days. That's a fact. Otherwise, Sarah Palin would have been president long before today.

76 posted on 12/24/2015 7:54:57 AM PST by meadsjn
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To: Theo

Trump is looking to win with outlandish promises, with style over substance.

And Cruz promises what? Oh yeah, he’s going to return the government to “constitutional principals”....just dont ask how....and dont pay attention that he cant even get a majority of his fellow senators to support him.

Just shut up because he’s the “true conservative christian”...and did you know he memorized the constitution when he was 13???!?!?

You can easily say that he is looking to win with “sentimentality over substance”.


77 posted on 12/24/2015 7:55:06 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: demshateGod
LOL!

quelle surprise!

demshateGod talks trash about the Trumpswabs. Who would have seen that coming? :)

78 posted on 12/24/2015 7:55:32 AM PST by kiryandil ("When Muslims in the White House are outlawed, only Barack Obama will be an outlaw")
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To: dangus

—— do not expect a single response defending what you mention above....but your motives, your ties to Rove, your mama, and everything else will be fair game.——
The above is so true. I was freepmailed long ago that this would be done to me, looking at every post I ever made, trumpees using trump’s wonderful vocabulary with words I won’t repeat plus the usual as mentioned.
Thanks for the fight. You are far from alone. There are MANY CRUZER’S WHO AVOID THE FOOD FIGHT! Because trumpees buy every lie he tells, don’t care he has changed positions more times any politician in history, acts like a whiny brat and as you point out cronyism is his first art form. So many are being played for fools.
But Cruz will soon be swimming the moat with a knife in his teeth and he knows how to fight. I am so looking forward to it.


79 posted on 12/24/2015 7:55:48 AM PST by libbylu
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To: VanDeKoik

I knew that you’d be one of the koolaid drinkers that would attack the messenger and not refute the points made. Doesn’t it get old doing the same old trick over and over, pony?


80 posted on 12/24/2015 7:56:03 AM PST by Axeslinger (Where has my country gone?)
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