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Imagine If Donald Trump Ran As A Democrat - It's Not Too Hard To Do
The Daily Caller ^ | December 14, 2015 | Jamie Weinstein

Posted on 12/14/2015 12:12:20 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: dynoman

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/265171/donald-trump-and-eminent-domain-robert-verbruggen


81 posted on 12/14/2015 2:23:17 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Yes. think of France without the socialist party which we do not have. They have extreme leftists, globalists, greenists, and persons of color in the rats’ party. We have values, isolationists, and constitutionalists or more aptly small federal government states’ rightists, on the right.


82 posted on 12/14/2015 2:26:40 AM PST by anton
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Conclusions and opinions using fatally flawed “logic” cannot be fact. The point stands; using your logic Cruz has a higher percentage of primary voters “ not in his camp” than Trump does. Trump consistently polls at least double digits above Cruz.

Like I said, if you don’t like that check your logic. I am using your logic exactly like you did.


83 posted on 12/14/2015 2:29:30 AM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: Monty22002

And you’ll see more of the Class of 98 go again. With no regrets whatsoever.

America is what matters. Not a website.


84 posted on 12/14/2015 2:29:58 AM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; caveat emptor; exnavy; Carry_Okie; The Ghost of FReepers Past
The point is, he hasn't changed.

He absolutely seems to have changed. Most of his positions look to be Populist. Somewhere along the way he appears to have rejected the Elitism side of politics. I suppose once you get F.U. Money, you are freed from some of the shackles of the establishment -- and he most definitely has F.U. Money.

The political battleground has changed drastically in the last 20-30 years. It is now Elitist vs. Populist. That is why you see so many Republicans acting so inexplicably oddly. It is also why Trump is so popular, with crossover appeal.

The Elitists have very VERY bad plans for us. Erasure of nations, removal of all defensive weaponry from the populace, thought-control (literally), and gross depopulation (probably on the birth side, I think they learned from Hitler / Stalin / Pol Pot how bad it goes on the other side).

I freely admit I could be wrong. This could be the best acting job since Heath Ledger's "Joker". This is a bit of a dice-throw for me. While I would prefer Cruz, Trump has a large lead. So I will toss the dice on Trump. Best to toss the dice, than to submit to the Globalist/Elitist world paradigm.

The thing that informs me that it is likely not an act, is the response of the Elitists. They threw Jeb, Rubio, and Carson at us. They tried to smear Trump in every way. They are planning to split us with Cruz by inflating his polls.

Those are not the actions of a people who want Trump to be the nominee.

85 posted on 12/14/2015 2:33:11 AM PST by Lazamataz (It has gotten to the point where any report from standard news outlets must be fact-checked.)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
If he's so smart, why was he wrong about everything until just a few years ago?

Smart people are people who can change conclusions when new facts are introduced.

86 posted on 12/14/2015 2:34:29 AM PST by Lazamataz (It has gotten to the point where any report from standard news outlets must be fact-checked.)
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To: Lazamataz

The facts were there all along. They are not new.


88 posted on 12/14/2015 2:35:33 AM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

“The Club for Growth today noted that Donald Trump once tried to use eminent domain”

My question again;”Where did Trump use emminant domain?”

For reference, your statement; “And the past use of emminant domain for private property aquisition is, well, despicable.”


89 posted on 12/14/2015 2:36:57 AM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
"I am going to take care of everybody," Trump said on "60 Minutes" in September. "I don't care if it costs me votes or not. Everybody's going to be taken care of much better than they're taken care of now."

So you want him to take care of you?

Oh, that's just pathetic. You might want to alter your line of argument.

The comment is just way too broad to pick on. Is he talking about the Common Defense? Well, that's right there in the Constitution. Is he talking about taking care of people by getting out of their way? Is he talking about taking care of those who truly need it, only? Is he talking about taking care of people by shutting the borders against Mexico, or preventing hostile Muslims from entering America, or dealing much more smartly with China?

You don't know what he means. A smart reporter would have pinned him down a lot more. They didn't.

I wouldn't use this as your argument. It's about as weak as they come.

90 posted on 12/14/2015 2:39:39 AM PST by Lazamataz (It has gotten to the point where any report from standard news outlets must be fact-checked.)
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To: dynoman

He went to court over it and lost. He used it but failed in court. That was pre Kilo-New London decision. Are you saying you do not count his two efforts to use it merely because his efforts failed? (And he claims he always wins, btw.)


91 posted on 12/14/2015 2:40:34 AM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

According to that article Trump never used eminent domain, right?


92 posted on 12/14/2015 2:40:47 AM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

Nope. They weren’t there. Not so plainly. The seven years of Obama have been very instructional to many millions.


93 posted on 12/14/2015 2:40:49 AM PST by Lazamataz (It has gotten to the point where any report from standard news outlets must be fact-checked.)
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To: Lazamataz

The context is clearly about healthcare.


94 posted on 12/14/2015 2:41:28 AM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: Lazamataz
Who Said It: Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump?
95 posted on 12/14/2015 2:43:42 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Lazamataz

Well, since it took that 70 something year old so long to figure out the conservative/liberal divide, I suggest he is not the proper person to be in charge of the nation and the Republican Party. It’s not like he is a young man.


96 posted on 12/14/2015 2:43:57 AM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: Lazamataz

From the article:

Trump is also a supporter of universal health care, if not Obamacare.

“I am going to take care of everybody,” Trump said on “60 Minutes” in September. “I don’t care if it costs me votes or not. Everybody’s going to be taken care of much better than they’re taken care of now.”

Trump even praised the single payer health care programs of Canada and Scotland during the first Republican presidential debate in August.

“As far as single payer, it works in Canada, it works incredibly well in Scotland, it could have worked in a different age, which is the age you are talking about here,” Trump said when asked by the moderators about his past support for single payer health care.

Of course Trump would have had to made the strategic decision to position himself to run in 2016 as a Democrat way back in 2010, before he went on his birther kick. You probably can’t win a Democratic primary as one of the leading birthers in the country.


97 posted on 12/14/2015 2:46:12 AM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

You said “And the past use of emminant domain for private property aquisition is, well, despicable.”

Words have meaning, if you meant he wanted to use it but lost in court say that. Be accurate.


98 posted on 12/14/2015 2:47:51 AM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: dynoman
According to that article Trump never used eminent domain, right?

Trump was stopped by the courts but as the excerpt (with Trump quote) that I proved to you in Post #62 shows, Trump likes the idea of being able to appropriate other people's property, still.

And I don't mind having these exchanges with you. I know other FReepers believe that they're tying "anti-Trump" posters up with endless arguments (pinning them down in one place, as it were), but you are providing a service in getting out the truth.

Next?

99 posted on 12/14/2015 2:49:08 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Oh. Well I never said I was always right ;)


100 posted on 12/14/2015 2:50:56 AM PST by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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