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Imagine If Donald Trump Ran As A Democrat - It's Not Too Hard To Do
The Daily Caller ^ | December 14, 2015 | Jamie Weinstein

Posted on 12/14/2015 12:12:20 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

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201 posted on 12/14/2015 6:41:23 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

No. I don’t. However, I volunteer for those I select.

I’ve never voted for a Democrat, much less donated to 23 of them like Donald Trump has.


202 posted on 12/14/2015 6:47:03 AM PST by Colonel_Flagg (Revenge is a Daesh best served cold.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I still say Trumps Liberal Rockefeller Republican now, using a Conservative campaign for a “Win”......

Can he be trusted?...I don’t believe so. But then there are many here who are more than willing to bet their vote on that very risk... over Cruz.....a tried and proven Conservative.

All of Trump’s past support is for Reid, Pelosi, Shummer, the Clintons, Rangel, Rham Emmanuel, even Rahm’s brother who is the author of obamacare’s “death panels”, but he is the one being touted as the “true conservative”.


203 posted on 12/14/2015 6:47:20 AM PST by caww
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Unfortunately, as with Obama’s run, Trump supporters aren’t interested in anything more than then what Trump proclaims now....quick to excuse him and cover for anything that sounds or looks unfavorable. He’s the “Tough Guy” they want and willing to let his past ride.


204 posted on 12/14/2015 6:53:55 AM PST by caww
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To: Lazamataz

Now picture working with that voice for YEARS.

Something glitched and I can’t finish her quest. I am stuck at “Talk to Piper” but I can’t. Either with her as a companion or not...And I only had her as a companion to see if that made a difference...Then restarted from the last save ;)

The studded Dog collar didn’t work either.


205 posted on 12/14/2015 6:57:51 AM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart

Studded dog collars only work on a very few. Never a companion, and only the occasional settler. Keep trying. I still got that one hot chick flaunting her stuff in Covenant. :)

As far as the glitch, that aint cool. You recover from that?


206 posted on 12/14/2015 6:59:56 AM PST by Lazamataz (It has gotten to the point where any report from standard news outlets must be fact-checked.)
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To: dynoman

Vera Coking, that is the name to search for.


207 posted on 12/14/2015 7:05:07 AM PST by exnavy (good gun control: two hands, one shot, one kill.)
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To: Lazamataz

Mr. Trump’s position papers on taxes, illegal immigration, the Second Amendment, etc. certainly are conservative.


208 posted on 12/14/2015 7:06:02 AM PST by july4thfreedomfoundation (Just say NO to muslim "immigrants")
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To: Lazamataz

I think it’s gonna require a restarted game. Which is fine as I never really intended to do the full playthrough the first go. I did the same with the other games. I play most of the way, learn the system, then restart with knowledge of how the system works. Then finish it on the 2n’d trip.

I mean, realistically I’ll be playing this game for several years with mods so I’m not in a rush to finish it ASAP.

I spent the night with RealVisioned Skyrim. Needed a break. It is really like a new game. The rain, the clouds, the godrayed sun animated through the trees....Amazing.


209 posted on 12/14/2015 7:08:37 AM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Lazamataz
He absolutely seems to have changed.

Only if you assume that he is telling you what he really believes. I think that an errant assumption. I think he is a massive liar, exactly the same sort of demagogue as Obama.

Somewhere along the way he appears to have rejected the Elitism side of politics. I suppose once you get F.U. Money, you are freed from some of the shackles of the establishment -- and he most definitely has F.U. Money.

Appearances can be deceiving. Take a close and skeptical look at what you wrote there Laz. Such suppositions could be deemed fantasies, as you have little in the way of substantive evidence for his support of those positions that have nominally changed. He has never talked about WHY he "changed" those positions. But even if he had, to me they are a matter of convenience.

I think the rationale is simpler: The Donald believes whatever is good for The Donald. After all, he does know how to make a sale.

It is now Elitist vs. Populist. That is why you see so many Republicans acting so inexplicably oddly.

Well one explanation for that is that some people (myself included) have made a life of explaining how the neo-mercantilist game works and that it was embedded in the Constitution to be instituted via international law.

The Elitists have very VERY bad plans for us.

Yes, I laid them out here fifteen years ago. Some want to off five-sixths of the world's population. Some have eschatological fantasies to feed. Your problem is that Donald Trump is made his fortune among gambling interests that include exactly such people, and some very dirty players to boot. Moreover, those investments are not just in America. How is he going to play straight with Erdogan when he owns a major hotel in Istanbul? How is he going to squeeze the sultanates into fighting ISIS when he has investments in Dubai?

You see, his supporters actually know very little about him beyond the public persona. He takes advantage of that. He always has:

I play to people's fantasies. People may not always think big themselves, but they can still get very excited by those who do. That's why a little hyperbole never hurts. People want to believe that something is the biggest and the greatest and the most spectacular. Donald Trump, The Art of the Deal, 1987 Worst, when Trump talks about what he is going to get done, have you noticed that he rarely mentions going through Congress? Is what we want instead of an autocrat with a pen and a phone wearing a Marxist logo a similar autocrat wearing our team logo? Seems to me that much of the left is unhappy about how it's turning out. So are we.

Much of what he says shows his ignorance of (or possibly contempt for) Constitutional process. As an executive in business, he gets to simply issue orders. That's not how it works with limited government. Are we so desperate we really want a despot? A guy who has screwed his creditors with bankruptcies while he had funds to pay them in other companies? A guy who claims massive assets much of which are actually built on the "value" of brand names and "goodwill"? Really? I don't.

Now you may think I am engaging in the same speculations as you, but if you look back through the post, I am working off what he has said or done just like I analyze what he wrote in his immigration plan as opposed to what he promises that it will do. As a dealmaker, sometimes, he broadcasts his true intentions in the full light of day, when you least expect them. Oh he says he'll deport illegals (how he'll get past the courts he doesn't say), but then he drops that their return will be an expedited process. He'll tell you later that you were told. With a guy like him, I want it in writing.

210 posted on 12/14/2015 7:43:45 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: caww
..He's the "Tough Guy" they want and willing to let his past ride.

I read an article awhile back that explained how it is that hockey fans hate the other teams' bad-boy with a passion. But when a similar bad-boy is wearing their colors, they think he's the best thing since sliced bagels (and cream cheese).

Donald Trump is their teams' bad-boy.

211 posted on 12/14/2015 7:44:04 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I think Trumps concerns as an American are far more in line with my concerns than a bunch of folks who have a record of selling this country down the toilet for decades.

The GOP and DEM candidates are so owned by people who could care less about this country not a damned one of them can be honest about the threat Islam is to the west and that the systems that are aupposed to protect this nation from them are so flawed and broken that they have no way of knowing if someone coming in will willingly shoot up a Christmas party for fun, that the only sane action would be to morotorium on any more being allowed in until it is fixed.

The GOP and the Dems are owned by people who don’t give a damn about this nation at all.


212 posted on 12/14/2015 7:55:21 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: HamiltonJay

All you have to go on is faith - in your belief that Trump is honest.

He has proven to be somewhat lacking in the area of honesty.


213 posted on 12/14/2015 7:58:17 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Trump is a noncon. I don’t trust him to think or act as a social and constitutional conservative.


214 posted on 12/14/2015 7:58:50 AM PST by Charles Henrickson (Social and constitutional conservative)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I liked Trump better when he WAS a Democrat


215 posted on 12/14/2015 8:00:04 AM PST by woofie
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

It just doesn’t matter.

He’s dead right on the single most important issue of the last 50 years- immigration. No one else can fix it. There’s too much money and power to be accumulated on both sides of the political spectrum.


216 posted on 12/14/2015 8:45:42 AM PST by Rockitz (This is NOT rocket science - Follow the money and you'll find the truth.)
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To: Lazamataz; Cincinatus' Wife; exnavy; Carry_Okie; The Ghost of FReepers Past
The point is, he hasn't changed.

Oops, my bad. It was late and your "TDS Handbook" snark put me off. And BTW TDS? Really? The only TDS that I'm aware of is that of the wee Donnie, according to his two ex-wives.

What is your point? "He can't change", "he hasn't changed" or "he absolutely seems to have changed". Never mind, I don't want to know. Stay classy.
217 posted on 12/14/2015 9:01:16 AM PST by caveat emptor
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To: Rockitz
It just doesn't matter......

Trump Support Is About Defeat

"As I argue with Trump supporters - or at least watch as they stamp around like Rumpelstiltskins when the real identity of their hero is revealed - something about the Donald's following is beginning to make sense to me. Despite all the talk about "Making America Great Again" and defeating his foes, foreign and domestic, Trump is selling a rather different product to many disaffected Americans: an opportunity for a glorious, thrilling defeat.

As a native Southerner, I am familiar with the appeal of this product. It's what Lost Cause literature is about. Your cause is just, and not the cause that your enemies claim you are fighting for. But you are outnumbered. You are outgunned. The establishment is against you. You are better, you are more noble. But you will probably lose just because of sheer force of numbers. So you might as well go down fighting for what you believe in, defiantly and gloriously. In Trump's case, I think the tell is all the talk about him being "politically incorrect." That's a relevant criterion for hiring a reality TV star or a talk-show host. But whether a potential president's comments are provocative or transgressive seems to me to be much less important than what the president is actually proposing to do, and whether such programs will work as advertised.

Trumpkins often prove to be either blissfully unaware or manifestly uninterested in the details of Trump's agenda. Liberals and commentators hold this up as evidence that large swaths of the GOP electorate are dumb. But I think many remain unaware of or uninterested in the details of the Trump program for a rational reason: they have no real expectation that their man will actually be president. They'll say he's a winner in public. It's part of the braggadocio he purveys and they are getting to share in at the moment. In their heart of hearts, however, they know Trump won't win. Don't underestimate the attraction of the Lost Cause. It makes defeatism glamorous." [end]

218 posted on 12/14/2015 9:07:44 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Rockitz
He's dead right on the single most important issue of the last 50 years- immigration.

You believe he is because how you have interpreted what he has said fits your desires. That's what he wants. It gives him latitude to hide or change the real deal. He has however let slip some of the details, and I don't think you'll like them one bit. So go back and READ the links I posted for your benefit.

219 posted on 12/14/2015 9:09:10 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I have knowledge that Trump answers to Trump, not to big check writers who most folks will never know and have conflicting agendas that are the masters of all the other Puppets...

Given all the rest are proven to be puppets, what do you have but faith that your puppet will stand up to his masters when what is best for you or this nation is in conflict with their master’s desires?

The rest have proven repeatedly they answer to their masters, not the voters, so what is your foundation for supporting them?


220 posted on 12/14/2015 9:15:22 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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