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Trump attacks Ted Cruz for not supporting ethanol subsidies
The American Thinker ^ | December 12, 2015 | Ed Straker

Posted on 12/11/2015 11:57:00 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: Cold Heat
Generally, fuel pumps for American cars are sold by the dealerships...

No they're not. Delphi makes OEM and Bosch makes the good aftermarket ones. Any decent mechanic can do the job.

I will not buy a front wheel drive car again for the reasons you stated

What, do you like sliding around in the snow?

CV joints....put several in the junkyard..back in the day..

Why didn't you just replace them? They wear out just like u-joints. CV shafts for a Chevy 4x are only about 60 bucks.

281 posted on 12/13/2015 9:48:18 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

I do hope that ethanol bites you in the ass as it has me.

Anyone thinking it’s a good idea should be made to pay for the consequences of mandating it.

Again, Government the all mighty has imposed on it’s citizens a direct and uncompromising order to buy the crap, just like Obama care.

And just like Obama care, it’s a albatross, and a very expensive one.


282 posted on 12/13/2015 9:49:03 AM PST by Cold Heat
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

I don’t live in the f’ing snow.

I can only get cheap imported crap from the secondary markets, I learned long ago to buy critical parts from the dealership. I also do my own mechanic work.

CV....or constant velocity joints have a boot on it that is prone to being cut, not by snow, but by branches, and field stuff that you have to drive over. The grease leaks out and you then start hearing the clickety, click, click...

After replacing several of them I stopped buying vehicles that employ them.


283 posted on 12/13/2015 9:55:06 AM PST by Cold Heat
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To: Cold Heat
I AM NOT A FRIGGIN IDIOT!

I drain the tanks, and if possible run the fuel out of the carbs before setting them up for the winter...

You have to do it every time you use it.

you cannot empty the bowl in a chainsaw without partial disassembly.

You can run it out of fuel. Why do you think they sell it?

I AM NOT A FRIGGIN IDIOT!...I am always buying new ones

I have yet to actually wear one out. The fuel lines generally rupture first....If you look up into the old lines, you will see that they inner liners are degraded.I AM NOT A FRIGGIN IDIOT!

So you discard a saw because the fuel line goes bad?

Those liners were developed for ethanol fuels...They are not working...I AM NOT A FRIGGIN IDIOT!

Then you should use non-ethanol 2-stroke fuel like I said earlier.

284 posted on 12/13/2015 9:57:11 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

A U-joint should last at least 50K miles....even if abused.

I have replaced CV joints on front wheel drive cars after 15-20K miles..


285 posted on 12/13/2015 9:57:44 AM PST by Cold Heat
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To: Cold Heat
Ethanol was never meant to be in a gas tank mixed with gas in a gasoline engine of any kind.

Ever heard of HEET?

286 posted on 12/13/2015 9:58:17 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: Cold Heat
I do hope that ethanol bites you in the ass as it has me.

If there are harsher conditions for cars and machinery than Maine winters I have no idea where that would be. It snows and rains in the Winter, and has very high humidity most of the time.

We can't even get non-alcohol fuel. If there were real problems like you allege, they would be wide-spread, and would have shown themselves long ago.

Anyone thinking it's a good idea should be made to pay for the consequences of mandating it.

The mandate is a stupid idea, even algor said as much.

Government the all mighty has imposed on it’s citizens a direct and uncompromising order to buy the crap, just like Obama care.

Agreed.

287 posted on 12/13/2015 10:06:20 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
So you discard a saw because the fuel line goes bad?

No, I carry a roll of fuel line and clamps in my truck....but as I said, often the debris from the deterioration of the lines fouls the carbs, and their tiny ports. After attempting repairs, the saw goes into a bucket in pieces and I buy a new one if the repairs do not fix it.

There is nothing more aggravating then a ethanol screwed chainsaw. Even the dealerships have difficulty repairing them and not having them returned the following day. Generally it requires a carb replacement...The cost of that, the new fuel lines, the tank filters, and the gaskets more than likely equal at least half the price of a new saw.

Plus when you buy a new saw you get a new 25 dollar chain. Add all that up and you will see why I keep the parts and buy a new saw. BTW, I buy decent saws....No wallyworld green crap.

288 posted on 12/13/2015 10:07:05 AM PST by Cold Heat
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
If there were real problems like you allege, they would be wide-spread, and would have shown themselves long ago.

It is and has...You are just not seeing it.

It's been going on so long that it's now a fact of life.The reason I see it and still bitch about it is that I know what it was like before ethanol.

289 posted on 12/13/2015 10:09:59 AM PST by Cold Heat
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

BTW, Occasionally you do run across some petroleum company selling non ethanol regular fuel at slightly more than premium prices...

I carry a 5 gal can in the truck for such events.....

But you don’t see it that often. Mostly in backwoods places..


290 posted on 12/13/2015 10:16:33 AM PST by Cold Heat
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To: Cold Heat
I don't live in the f'ing snow.

Well then, what do you know about harsh conditions? I'd say you have it REAL easy.

I can only get cheap imported crap from the secondary markets, I learned long ago to buy critical parts from the dealership.

Really? If their stuff is so great, why doesn't it carry a lifetime warranty? Much of that "cheap junk" like Moog does...as do others.

Tell your dealer you want all your vehicles' original parts covered by a lifetime warranty....see what happens.

I also do my own mechanic work.

That may be another clue.

CV....or constant velocity joints have a boot on it that is prone to being cut, not by snow, but by branches, and field stuff that you have to drive over. The grease leaks out and you then start hearing the clickety, click, click...

Yeah, I'm familiar. You do a lot of off-roading in you car I take it.

After replacing several of them I stopped buying vehicles that employ them.

Really? You can barely find a non-4x4 pickup up here. They're worthless.

291 posted on 12/13/2015 10:23:32 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: Cold Heat

It might help to know that we have been using ethanol since the 70s....

Since the mandate went to 10%, that is when the trouble began. It caused quite a bit of economic activity, not so much the making of the product, but the revamping of storage tanks, gas pumps, autos, and everything that uses gasoline.

Some motors and assemblies have not quite figured out how to run the crap and still keep their pricing competitive. Some manufacturers that are all generally foreign company’s have not invested much into the problem as it began here..and they are global...

The easy fix would have been to also mandate the sale of non ethanol gasoline but in smaller quantities. It was proposed and was not considered.

But the military has it...as do certain preferred customers..

Just not the great unwashed...


292 posted on 12/13/2015 10:25:44 AM PST by Cold Heat
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

I lived in the Dakota’s back when I was a younger..I know what it’s like.

And no...I don’t require a 4WD....I do however have a winch on the front...

The reason I use dealerships for fuel pumps is that they keep up with the minutia of improvements to them such as the electrical connectors....The pump it’s self does not fail...the electrical connectors do. They get hard and lose their seal. The fuel then causes the connector to lose it’s solid electrical connection and they get resistive and fail.

Small engine issues are a totally different matter.

There is also a issue with gasoline storage that cropped up. You can no longer store it as long, even with additives.

I am thinking we lost at least a couple years....The gas goes bad now after a little over one year depending on temperature..

That’s why I dump my entire tank...You have to. even if it means turning generator upside down.


293 posted on 12/13/2015 10:34:52 AM PST by Cold Heat
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To: Cold Heat
It is and has...You are just not seeing it.

No, we dealt with it! And I just told you how.

Make sure you run small engines dry every time. The carb has a vent hole and humidity gets into the bowl.

Get non-ethanol fuel for your chainsaws.

Make sure the gas cap is sealing your gas tank on the vehicles, you may need to replace it.

Stop rock-crawling with your car.

294 posted on 12/13/2015 10:36:03 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: Cold Heat
The gas goes bad now after a little over one year depending on temperature..

You have to seal the tank. (See: hygroscopic)

Ethanol pulls water from the air.

295 posted on 12/13/2015 10:39:28 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

We don’t have rocks....

And you are not hearing me..

Here’s another anecdote.

During the early 80s, I was employed by a refinery. We had to put in a blending station for the ethanol back then...I don’t know how they do it now, but we had issue after issue of leaky seals....

I did not operate the station, I was in plant maintenance so when we had a spill, they came to me for the equipment to clean it up, and this included pumps....we called them trash pumps because they pumped nearly anything...

They started returning the pumps I was renting and saying that the seals had failed and they were not pumping.

After some research, I found that the pumps were equipped with good impellers and seals that were somewhat acid resistant, oil resistant, gasoline resistant, but they were not alcohol resistant..

The fix was to stop renting trash pumps and buy some that we modified in plant. The suppliers had not yet seen this problem. We took the Buna-N seals out, if I recall, and changed them to very expensive neoprene or some such composition...

Problem solved....but this same problem, and I did not anticipate it at the time, actually went through the entire chain of fuel users, dispensers, wholesalers, storage firms....to the end users..

It’s still going on in various nooks and cranny’s of the retail sector..

Have a nice ethanol day...


296 posted on 12/13/2015 10:58:07 AM PST by Cold Heat
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

What.....You think I leave the caps off?

You think I don’t fill the tank to the neck and tightly seal it.

In the case on one John Deere tractor and one Husqvarna, the shitty gas ate the fricken tank seals completely out, rendering them into black goo...

Got any more statements like that?


297 posted on 12/13/2015 11:01:34 AM PST by Cold Heat
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Ethanol has water already in it....but that’s not the worst of the problem. Water only helps to turn the gas into jelly.

The biggest problem is the seals, fuel lines, and carbs...

So now we come full circle...

Circular arguments are not my cup of tea,,,,


298 posted on 12/13/2015 11:05:18 AM PST by Cold Heat
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To: Cold Heat

Like I said, it’s the rubber, not neoprene. Nobody uses rubber anymore, they use neoprene, like your trash pump seals.

It’s the water that causes your problems, made possible by the hygroscopic alcohol. You have to seal non-automotive tanks when not in use.

Once you keep the water out, end of problem.

Since most people don’t have an issue with it up here, they’ve learned how to avoid it. You obviously haven’t.

The subsidy is gone, corn prices are going back to where they were.

Just calm down.


299 posted on 12/13/2015 11:47:55 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: Cold Heat

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300 posted on 12/13/2015 11:48:12 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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