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Trump on Waterboarding: It Works, But Even ‘If It Doesn’t Work, They Deserve It Anyway’
CNS ^ | November 24, 2015 | Patrick Goodenough

Posted on 11/24/2015 6:14:14 AM PST by xzins

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To: TheTimeOfMan

Well - Cruz is my first choice - but every time Trump says something like this he gets more of my good will.

Love it.


41 posted on 11/24/2015 7:22:12 AM PST by TheTimeOfMan (Cruz / West 2016)
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To: TheTimeOfMan; DoodleDawg

I’m a fan of the rights that US citizens have although I’m not a fan of throwing out evidence that proves a murderer to be a murderer. I’m not a fan of allowing a murderer to walk because someone obtained their evidence the wrong way, but that the evidence actually did prove the murderer was a murderer.

Waterboarding is normally used to obtain info about techniques, plans, etc. in order to prevent future attacks by terrorists. It is preemptive.

Getting a confession of a murder by a civil criminal via waterboarding would, of course, be suspect. But getting the location of a murder weapon or of a body or of some physical proof of the murder is an entirely different matter.

I wouldn’t give you a wooden nickel for a confession. But, it’s pretty hard to explain away how someone knew the location of the murder weapon. He didn’t come to know it because he was being water-boarded.


42 posted on 11/24/2015 7:27:03 AM PST by xzins (HAVE YOU DONATED TO THE FREEPATHON? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: TheTimeOfMan; DoodleDawg

I’m a fan of the rights that US citizens have although I’m not a fan of throwing out evidence that proves a murderer to be a murderer. I’m not a fan of allowing a murderer to walk because someone obtained their evidence the wrong way, but that the evidence actually did prove the murderer was a murderer.

Waterboarding is normally used to obtain info about techniques, plans, etc. in order to prevent future attacks by terrorists. It is preemptive.

Getting a confession of a murder by a civil criminal via waterboarding would, of course, be suspect. But getting the location of a murder weapon or of a body or of some physical proof of the murder is an entirely different matter.

I wouldn’t give you a wooden nickel for a confession. But, it’s pretty hard to explain away how someone knew the location of the murder weapon. He didn’t come to know it because he was being water-boarded.

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43 posted on 11/24/2015 7:27:17 AM PST by xzins (HAVE YOU DONATED TO THE FREEPATHON? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: matthew fuller

I’ll vote for him. I’m going to do all I can to insist that Cruz be his VP.

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44 posted on 11/24/2015 7:28:08 AM PST by xzins (HAVE YOU DONATED TO THE FREEPATHON? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: xzins

I watched the speech live last night, the crowd roared approval of water boarding.

It’s a sign, Thank God America has begun to awaken.


45 posted on 11/24/2015 7:30:43 AM PST by Balding_Eagle (The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.)
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To: DoodleDawg
I didn't see that qualifier in what Trump said. He just said terror suspects, so I assumed he meant terror suspects here.

He was speaking to more intellectual crowd

46 posted on 11/24/2015 7:33:00 AM PST by Balding_Eagle (The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.)
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To: xzins

I just watched Jonathan Carl interview Cruz. Though Cruz held his own, Carl (taller) was almost right in his face and leaning in when he asked his leading questions. That right there is an issue Trump does not have because he DOES NOT ALLOW IT.

I like Cruz on substance, too, but he can be demonized by the media as a sanctimonious troublemaker whereas Trump sails right through with his stern yet affable W.C. Fields persona.


47 posted on 11/24/2015 7:34:10 AM PST by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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To: avenir

On one of the late night shows Seth Meyers I think Cruz was asked how did the filibuster work for him. Everyone laughed even Cruz just smiled

He can’t come back with a see how obamacare works out?

Ok. But with trump in there winning against the first enemy the media Cruz is not going to do well especially by comparison

Trump runs circles around these guys. That is the only thing that works against them. Anyonevwho runs against Hilary has to get past them. They are like the castle guards in the holy grail towards republicans. They can be the Sir Robin and skip around or King Arthur and storm it while getting crap thrown at them


48 posted on 11/24/2015 7:50:47 AM PST by stanne
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To: avenir

Trump definitely knows how to handle the media.

He said he saw Muslims celebrating after 9/11 and Stephanopolous and the media said he was lying.

Then suddenly media reports surface of all the places NJ muslim celebrations were mentioned. Mark Steyn has an important article on it this morning on his website. It pretty well proves Trump correct.

Cruz is a journeyman with the media. He does well. Trump, though, is a master. In fact, they’re giving him free publicity it seems every time he opens his mouth.

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49 posted on 11/24/2015 7:53:32 AM PST by xzins (HAVE YOU DONATED TO THE FREEPATHON? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: xzins

That right there is funny.


50 posted on 11/24/2015 7:54:46 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: stanne

True. It’s not Cruz the man that is the problem. He just can’t “get passed them” where Trump CAN.


51 posted on 11/24/2015 7:55:58 AM PST by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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To: Balding_Eagle

We get told by the media daily that we’re not nearly as bright as them, that our ideas are archaic, that we are dolts. But our ideas never get fairly presented.

Along comes Trump, saying what we’re saying, and demonstrating not just the common sense of what the people think, but also demonstrating that the media are a bunch of manipulative spokespeople for the establishment.

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52 posted on 11/24/2015 7:57:09 AM PST by xzins (HAVE YOU DONATED TO THE FREEPATHON? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

Yep. Made me laugh when I saw it.

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53 posted on 11/24/2015 7:59:37 AM PST by xzins (HAVE YOU DONATED TO THE FREEPATHON? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: avenir

All politics is local. Ok. But all politics is playground rules. These guys had to have played backyard sports. No moms no dads. Go from there.


54 posted on 11/24/2015 8:01:40 AM PST by stanne
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To: sickoflibs; xzins; stephenjohnbanker; Gilbo_3; Impy; NFHale; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj

I still like Marie Harf-wit’s “Jobs For Jihadists” program. A

shame they at best only want to be on welfare, but any

leftist will say it’s the thought that counts.


55 posted on 11/24/2015 8:40:10 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) since Nov 2014 (GOPe is that easy to read)
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To: xzins

As long as it isn’t done against Citizens, what’s the problem? This is war, you do what you have to do.


56 posted on 11/24/2015 8:42:26 AM PST by dfwgator
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