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BREAKING: Second pilot found dead amid reports rescue helicopter also DOWNED
UKexpress ^ | 11/24/15 | Leda Reynolds

Posted on 11/24/2015 4:40:24 AM PST by winoneforthegipper

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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Turkey’s military have today shot down a Russian war plane near its border with Syria after the jet violated Turkish air space.
201 posted on 11/24/2015 8:14:15 AM PST by TribalPrincess2U (0bama's agenda�Divide and conquer seems to be working.)
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To: driftdiver
According to this article the Turks shot the pilots as they descended under their parachutes.

Isn't that against the Geneva Convention? Not that they'd care much down there, but why brag about it?

202 posted on 11/24/2015 8:15:28 AM PST by Moltke
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To: winoneforthegipper

Too bad both Russia and Turkey can’t lose.


203 posted on 11/24/2015 8:17:55 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: lodi90

“Seems pretty obvious Putin was trying to manufacture an incident. Presumably to get US aircraft out of Syria. Now that he’s got a couple of shish kabob’d Russkie pilot martyrs I imagine Russian AA radar will start engaging US aircraft in Syria, etc. Then kenyan will run so fast from Syria it will make your head spin.”

Obama doesn’t want to be in Syria. Putin doesn’t have to kill his own people to push Obama into the backseat.


204 posted on 11/24/2015 8:26:32 AM PST by Blackyce (French President Jacques Chirac: "As far as I'm concerned, war always means failure.")
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To: Turbo Pig
From 'Enemy at the gate'.

One Russian soldier was given a gun, his buddy was given 3 bullets. This against fully equipped Germans with tanks and air dominance.

To belittle their winning role is sheer arrogance on your part.

205 posted on 11/24/2015 8:28:55 AM PST by duckln
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To: dfwgator

“Too bad both Russia and Turkey can’t lose.”

I think they are both losing actually.


206 posted on 11/24/2015 8:29:15 AM PST by Blackyce (French President Jacques Chirac: "As far as I'm concerned, war always means failure.")
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To: duckln

“To belittle their winning role is sheer arrogance on your part.”

There’s no need to belittle their role in winning the war. They belittled their own role when they occupied and dominated half of the continent under a perverted and murderous totalitarian government for the next 50 years.


207 posted on 11/24/2015 8:36:10 AM PST by Blackyce (French President Jacques Chirac: "As far as I'm concerned, war always means failure.")
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To: Blackyce

Breaking News ‏@BreakingNews 3m3 minutes ago

2 Russian pilots from jet downed near Syrian border believed to be alive, Turkish government official says @Reuters http://www.breakingnews.com/t/ol
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208 posted on 11/24/2015 8:36:46 AM PST by halo66
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To: halo66

DRUDGE REPORT ‏@DRUDGE_REPORT 1m1 minute ago

BUT Turkish officials say alive, seeking their release... http://tmsnrt.rs/1N64fze


209 posted on 11/24/2015 8:37:07 AM PST by halo66
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To: Blackyce
Don't change the subject. We were talking about Stalingrad and turning the tide of the war.

If the USSR had not started to prevail against the NAZIS in Stalingrad in'42', we would not been able to prevail in Normandy in '43?'.

210 posted on 11/24/2015 9:03:01 AM PST by duckln
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To: duckln

I really just don’t understand the point of the argument. The war started with them making a pact with the Nazis, and begun to turn around when they turned against the Nazis, why in the world should anyone give them credit for anything? They helped cause a mess. They helped end a mess. Then they created a whole new mess all on their own.


211 posted on 11/24/2015 9:08:41 AM PST by Blackyce (French President Jacques Chirac: "As far as I'm concerned, war always means failure.")
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To: Blackyce

Without our aid, the Soviets would have lost the war.


212 posted on 11/24/2015 9:09:39 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

“Winning the Lost War,” by Lawrence Cambria, argues persuasively that the USSR had already pretty well beaten Germany before the US even became involved. Russia nearly lost the whole thing when the Germans were outside of Moscow, but after that, when the Wermacht failed to take Moscow, nothing went well for the Nazis. If Cambria is correct, then the primary result of American involvement was saving Western Europe from the USSR.


213 posted on 11/24/2015 9:19:44 AM PST by Sam Cree (absolute reality)
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To: Lazamataz

Lets give the Kurds their whey.
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Yuk, yuk, yuk!


214 posted on 11/24/2015 9:38:43 AM PST by House Atreides (Cruz or lose! Does TG have to be an ass every day?)
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To: Blackyce
Hitler was bent on war and revenge after the defeat of Germany in WW1. They (IIRR)took back the Ruhr, built an incredible war machine, took over Austria, Czechoslovakia, Denmark, Norway and Poland was to be next. with the USSR the next victim on the list.

The war was well on the way.

The Nazis had allied with Italy and Japan, who was encroaching on the USSR on its'eastern border tying up their army. The signing to split Poland was a delaying tactic that benefited both the USSR and the Nazis.

215 posted on 11/24/2015 9:53:39 AM PST by duckln
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To: dfwgator

Yep. Entire divisions equipped with Ford/Dodge trucks, M2/M3 Lee tanks, M4 Shermans, and British Crocodile, Crusader, and Valentine tanks.

216 posted on 11/24/2015 10:08:06 AM PST by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!!)
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To: duckln
The signing to split Poland was a delaying tactic that benefited both the USSR and the Nazis.

It would have worked out for Stalin, except for one thing, France falling in six weeks, which kept the German and British armies intact. Stalin counted on a western war bleeding the French, German and British armies dry, making it easy pickings for the Red Army, by as early as 1943.

217 posted on 11/24/2015 10:11:21 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

Russian military general staff says soldier died in rescue operation for fighter jet downed by Turkey - @Reuters

Russian defense ministry says it suspends military contact with Turkey - Interfax via @Reuters


218 posted on 11/24/2015 10:14:46 AM PST by McGruff (Those that fail to learn from history, are doomed to repeat it)
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To: 4rcane

They are actually both allied enemies: Turkey and ISIS, as well as Russia and Iran. More broadly, it’s Sunni vs. Shia.

Really, you can pick your poison here, though the classic position is to want to keep them wrestling, below a real danger level, with each other.


219 posted on 11/24/2015 12:33:24 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: prisoner6

“The problem is who will fill the gap?”

Well, no matter how much Linda and McCain want it to be, it WILL NOT BE a bunch of Islamic Thomas Jeffersons...not going to happen.


220 posted on 11/24/2015 2:16:42 PM PST by BobL (Who cares? He's going to build a wall and stop this invasion.)
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