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Government Seizes Sheriff’s Tracked Armored Vehicle At Behest Of Obama [VIDEO]
Daily Caller ^ | 11/19/15 | Kerry Pickett

Posted on 11/19/2015 7:16:54 PM PST by markomalley

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To: TigersEye
What difference does it make where the vehicle is acquired?

Where does the Constitution authorize fedgov to equip local police? Police should be funded by state and local governments, which keeps control where it ought to be - with state and local governments.

There are always strings attached to unconstitutional gifts from fedgov.

61 posted on 11/20/2015 4:57:04 PM PST by Ken H
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To: Ken H

Where does the Constitution prohibit county sheriffs from acquiring milsurp equipment and putting it to use instead of scrapping it?


62 posted on 11/20/2015 4:59:24 PM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason and rule of law. Prepare!)
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To: TigersEye
Where does the Constitution prohibit county sheriffs from acquiring milsurp equipment and putting it to use instead of scrapping it?

Nowhere that I can find.

Now, where does the Constitution authorize fedgov to supply local PDs?

63 posted on 11/20/2015 5:09:17 PM PST by Ken H
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To: TigersEye
The one that won't start probably needs: carburetor rebuild, kit is about 80 bucks, modern fuel selector valve so it doesn't suck air: 30 bucks + fittings and filters, 50 bucks. Timing checked, free, 2 hours of fumbling.

The one that runs needs brakes bled and adjusted. 1/2 day or less. New nose (which is setting in the back) welded in. depending on skills and how pretty you want it, 2 hours to 2 days.

That one is already pretty much a "bug out vehicle" as the radio box is in fairly good shape. Just throw in you camping gear and grub and you're done.

The other one would need some type of lockable box bolted in the bed.

64 posted on 11/20/2015 5:10:41 PM PST by Mogger (Independence, better fuel economy and performance with American made synthetic oil.)
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To: Ken H

This was a county sheriff not a local PD.


65 posted on 11/20/2015 5:12:10 PM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason and rule of law. Prepare!)
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To: TigersEye

Where does the Constitution authorize fedgov to supply local PDs or sheriffs’ departments, in your opinion?


66 posted on 11/20/2015 5:18:53 PM PST by Ken H
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To: Ken H

Where is the FedMob prohibited from selling milsurp?


67 posted on 11/20/2015 5:27:05 PM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason and rule of law. Prepare!)
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To: TigersEye
Where is the FedMob prohibited from selling milsurp?

Amendment X =>

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

__________________________________________________________________

So which section of the Constitution delegates to fedgov the power to supply local PDs/SDs?

68 posted on 11/20/2015 5:35:00 PM PST by Ken H
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To: Ken H

Amend. X authorizes the states and the people to buy milsurp.
After all the people paid for it.


69 posted on 11/20/2015 5:43:15 PM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason and rule of law. Prepare!)
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To: TigersEye
Amend. X authorizes the states and the people to buy milsurp.

This is about fedgov supplying state and local deparments, and not about states/localities buying equipment.

So far, you have not answered which section of the Constitution delegates to fedgov that power. Can I have an answer to that?

70 posted on 11/20/2015 5:50:58 PM PST by Ken H
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To: Ken H
This is about fedgov supplying...

There's your problem. That is false.

1033 PROGRAM

PROGRAM OVERVIEW

Sec. 1033. TRANSFER OF EXCESS PERSONAL PROPERTY TO SUPPORT LAW ENFORCEMENT ACTIVITIES

--(a) TRANSFER AUTHORITY. (1) Chapter 153 of title 10, United States Code, is amended by inserting after section 2576 the following new section:

--2576a. Excess personal property: sale or donation for law enforcement activities

(a) TRANSFER AUTHORIZED. (1) Notwithstanding any other provision of law and subject to subsection (b), the Secretary of Defense may transfer to Federal and State agencies personal property of the Department of Defense, including small arms and ammunition, that the Secretary determines is:

--(A) suitable for use by the agencies in law enforcement activities, including counter drug and counter terrorism activities; and

--(B) excess to the needs of the Department of Defense.

--(2) The Secretary shall carry out this section in consultation with the Attorney General and the Director of National Drug Control Policy.

--(b) CONDITIONS FOR TRANSFER. The Secretary of Defense may transfer personal property under this section only if:

--(1) the property is drawn from existing stocks of the Department of Defense;

--(2) the recipient accepts the property on an as-is, where-is basis;

--(3) the transfer is made without the expenditure of any funds available to the Department of Defense for the procurement of defense equipment; and

--(4) all costs incurred subsequent to the transfer of property are borne or reimbursed by the recipient.


71 posted on 11/20/2015 5:54:25 PM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason and rule of law. Prepare!)
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To: TigersEye
This is about fedgov supplying...

There's your problem. That is false.

No it is not. 1033 mentions sale or donation. The equipment mentioned in the article was donated by fedgov. Otherwise, they wouldn't be taking them back.

So where is fedgov delegated that power by the Constitution?

72 posted on 11/20/2015 6:42:57 PM PST by Ken H
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To: ConservingFreedom

No doubt ;) Thanks for your reply.


73 posted on 11/20/2015 9:35:37 PM PST by jttpwalsh
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To: Ken H

County sheriffs are elected officials of the people. What they do is as representatives of the people. If your interpretation of the Constitution is true then all sales of milsurp arms and ammo to the people is un-Constitutional.

I don’t think so.


74 posted on 11/20/2015 11:43:10 PM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason and rule of law. Prepare!)
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