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Iraqi Oil Selling at $30 as OPEC Readies for New Battles
Reuters via Rig Zone ^ | November 19, 2015 | Alex Lawler and Rania El Gamal

Posted on 11/19/2015 1:25:17 PM PST by thackney

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To: Enlightened1

Gasoline is a commodity, just as is crude oil, diesel, kerosene, etc.

The market demands for each do not all move together equally. Some larger general trends will be the similar, but not exact. Month to month can vary a lot.

Keep in mind, these numbers are not actual cost, but price differences.

The Price of the crude oil.

Price adder for the Wholesale Gasoline.

Price adder for the Retail Gasoline.

Price adder for the taxes at retail sale.

If the market is competitive, profit margins at that stage will be smaller.

If crude stocks are higher and gasoline stocks are lower the margins tend to move from one to the other.

At the same time diesel, kerosene, heating fuel, petroleum coke, naptha, etc all have differing demands that do not move equally. Sometimes the refinery makes more of their profit in gasoline, later in diesel, etc.

Does your electric bill move precisely with the price of coal, natural gas?

Again, look at the chart in post #15. Gasoline didn’t rise as much as oil (percentage) so why do you expect to fall by the same percentage?


21 posted on 11/19/2015 2:52:36 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Enlightened1
Think about how much a barrel of gas was in the early 1990s, and then how much we paid at the pump compared to today.

Yeah, but it's not the nineties anymore, corporate taxes are higher, wages are higher, and EPA regulations impose a higher cost than they did then. Obamacare figures in, too.

22 posted on 11/19/2015 5:00:07 PM PST by BfloGuy ( Even the opponents of Socialism are dominated by socialist ideas.)
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To: thackney

Time to fill up the SPR!


23 posted on 11/19/2015 5:22:13 PM PST by CPT Clay (Hillary: Julius and Ethal Rosenberg were electrocuted for selling classified info.)
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To: Enlightened1

About half the cost of gas/diesel is incurred after it is extracted.


24 posted on 11/19/2015 5:29:16 PM PST by Diggity
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To: thackney
Some grades can be worth that or less. Tough to judge without a description. Some North Dakota crude is selling currently for less than $20.

For those of us who know nothing about crude oil grades and what they mean, would that oil be selling for less than $20 because it's difficult/more costly to refine into gasoline and other petroleum based products?

25 posted on 11/19/2015 5:31:10 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Enlightened1

Buck 69 in South Carolina. Maybe the lefty taxes are to high.


26 posted on 11/19/2015 5:48:01 PM PST by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west))
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To: usconservative

Different grades would include sour, containing more sulfur, which cost more processing to remove.

Also made up of too many components that are too light or too heavy to separate into the most valuable fuels of gasoline, diesel or kerosene.

Those that are too heavy can have extra processing to crack those long change molecules into lighter ones. But it cost more and 100% of that does not become a transportation fuel.


27 posted on 11/20/2015 4:22:42 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney

Thanks for the explanation. Had a feeling the “grade” of crude had something to do with it, never knew why.


28 posted on 11/20/2015 7:07:03 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: usconservative

By Grade do you mean the API gravity? Thinner versus thicker?

That is part of the qualities that vary the value.


29 posted on 11/20/2015 7:15:23 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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I have no idea what api gravity means. I think I meant "thinner vs. thicker" ..... I see terms like "light/sweet crude" and "heavy" and "brent crude" in various oil related stories which I've always assumed to have something to do with the thickness of oil, which then has an impact on the ease or difficulty of refining that oil into other products.

This is one of those areas I have literally zero knowledge in which is why I'm asking what are likely very basic/rudimentary questions.

30 posted on 11/20/2015 8:29:23 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: usconservative

Light oil is thinner, has a higher API gravity (a measurement of viscosity). It contains more smaller molecules of hydrocarbons. Too light, like propane, and it cannot be used for gasoline, diesel etc.

Heavy oil is thicker. It is literally heavier. It weighs more per barrel than light oil. It has more larger hydrocarbon molecules. Ultra heavy oil is heavier than water. Refineries can break (crack) the larger molecules into smaller ones, but that cost energy (money).

All are a blend of many different sizes of hydrocarbon. API gravity and sulfur are the most common measurement of oil qualities.


31 posted on 11/20/2015 8:37:23 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney

I learned something new today, thanks!


32 posted on 11/20/2015 8:42:54 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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I share this so folks understand when the media quotes the price of oil, that price is West Texas Intermediate, delivered to Cushing, OK, and delivered next month.

Time, location and qualities can double or halve the price of oil.


33 posted on 11/20/2015 8:45:45 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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