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Why Ben Carson’s West Point fib probably won’t hurt him
Busines via Slate ^ | November 6, 2015 | Jamelle Bouie, Slate

Posted on 11/08/2015 11:10:05 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

“Too bad the good general isn’t here to confirm all that ...”

Carson seems to have a habit of mentioning people that are dead, or mentioning people that he won’t name, so as to ‘respect their privacy’.

Either way, you have to take Carson’s word on it. And while he may be as honest as Jesus, we’ll have to take his word on that, also.


21 posted on 11/08/2015 1:00:27 PM PST by BobL ( (REPUBLICANS - Fight for the WHITE VOTE...and you will win (see my 'profile' page))
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

The thing too is that an informal conversation (that never went any farther) about getting an appointment to Westpoint suddenly got blown up by the media into “Carson said he got an appointment to Westpoint, the academy has no record that he even applied, so he’s a LIAR LIAR LIAR!!!”

This is much ado about nothing.


22 posted on 11/08/2015 1:00:36 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Death before disco.)
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To: MNJohnnie
Tells us quite a bit about how scared they are of Carson

But it doesn't answer the question of why on earth they should be scared of Carson?

23 posted on 11/08/2015 1:01:51 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: BobL

Yeah, that’s kinda bothersome. It comes like Bob Woodward, who has real pattern of suddenly recalling amazing conversations/interviews with people—AFTER they die.


24 posted on 11/08/2015 1:04:14 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Death before disco.)
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To: SeekAndFind

It is not Ben who is lying. It is the left wing American media who hate and fear the power a decent man, an outsider, has generated with the public, who have grown to love him. He has committed a big sin in that he is a black conservative who is so developed in skill and wisdom that they have decided he must go. They must kill all admiration for him through lies and distortions and if they could hang him on a rope over a tree limb and get away with it, they would. (My opinion) What they are trying is pseudo assassination. I have seen the corrupt media do many outrageous things during my time, mostly through double speak and double standards, but this one is the most disturbing I have seen. There is just something so diabolical about what they are trying to do to Dr. Carson. It is hard for me to believe that any honest person could accept it without extreme anger. We will see what happens this week.


25 posted on 11/08/2015 1:46:08 PM PST by jazzlite (esat)
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To: SeekAndFind

not a fib.


26 posted on 11/08/2015 1:52:21 PM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: DoodleDawg

...”But it doesn’t answer the question of why on earth they should be scared of Carson?”...

He is black and conservative and he is gathering way too much power from the people. Also, the polls show that he can beat Hillary Clinton. Now, they can have that, can they?


27 posted on 11/08/2015 1:52:42 PM PST by jazzlite (esat)
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To: jazzlite
He is black and conservative and he is gathering way too much power from the people. Also, the polls show that he can beat Hillary Clinton. Now, they can have that, can they?

Carson wants to raise the income taxes for most of the people in the country. The Democrats are salivating at the idea of running against someone like that.

28 posted on 11/08/2015 2:00:24 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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You're just dazed and frazzeled as your Wonder Boy Dr. Ben Ben Carson continues his self-implosion.

You wish Dr. Ben Carson to be "off-limits" for the same reason that Obama was "off-limits" in 2008/2012.


Good luck with that strategy, here, Son ...


Of course, my biggest question is whether Dr. Ben Carson smiled that famous "$hit eating grin" when he announced:

1) No "association" with Mannatech after receiving $ 120,000 in product endorsement and speaking fees

2) Puerto Rico statehood

3) "Citizenship" amnesty for 15 million Mexican immigrants

4) No guarantee of Second Amendment protections

5) Endorsement of Gay marriage

6) Endorsement of Abortion "rights"

7) Endorsement of "special bathrooms" for LGBT folks (a billion dollar construction project)

8) Utter failure to clearly answer a question about his proposed 10-15-25 percent "Church Tithe" federal income tax plan at the last GOP debate

9) Endorsement of Al Sharpton's "sterling character"

10) Spewing (like a complete FOOL) tin-foil wacked-out theories about Egypt's pyramids



I would continue the list, but I'm sure that your "Egyptian Pyramid Grain Storage Secret Decoder Ring" is setting itself for "Self-Destruct" ...

just like Dr. Ben Carson's "inept" presidential campaign is doing to itself.



How about you man-up, "Johnnie", and accept my $ 50 bet that Dr. Ben Carson will be polling "single digits" (Average between RCP and Monmounth polls) on Christmas Day 2015 ?

Otherwise, you're the same Bravo Sierra artist that Dr. Ben Carson has sadly become ...


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29 posted on 11/08/2015 5:03:49 PM PST by Patton@Bastogne
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past; All

Here is the video of Ben Carson saying,

“I was offered a full scholarship to West Point”

It starts at 29 seconds,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xRzFL0_TRo


30 posted on 11/08/2015 7:04:46 PM PST by Enlightened1
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To: Patton@Bastogne

They made Ben Carson the most honest person and he has been caught lying.

Why it is so big is because many of his followers think he is as pure, and he is not.

I know Ben Carson very intelligent, and a great surgeon.

I would not even mine seeing him in charge of undoing Obamacare, but that’s it.

His support for Open Borders is NOT acceptable.

His support for war in Syria is NOT acceptable.

His support for the TPP is NOT acceptable.

His support for force innoculation (aka medical tyranny) is NOT acceptable.

There is simply NO WAY I will ever vote for this guy. He is WRONG on too many issues.

Finally, the latest “Black Jesus” thing is a HUGE Red flag.

I think he is a STEALTH ESTABLISHMENT candidate.


31 posted on 11/08/2015 7:09:49 PM PST by Enlightened1
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To: Enlightened1

I’ve seen it. Now you can research the fact that West Point called their free tuition a scholarship themselves. You had to be recommended for it. Carson took the conversation as an offer. I have heard interviews from others who received the same sort of offers in the same way.


32 posted on 11/08/2015 10:40:54 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: SeekAndFind
There are immediate problems here. There are no scholarships to West Point — all costs are covered for all students.

The author is a moron. If West Point calls it a scholarship — a full gubmint scholarship, no less, including tuition, room, board, medical and dental, and a stipend — then how can the author fault Carson for calling it a scholarship?


Deceptive advertising (a USG specialty) — Unlike Yale, West Point scholarships have to be paid back with military service!

And the only way to get an offer is to apply, but the school has no record of Carson’s application.

The author is a moron. West Point deletes admission records after three years, except in the case of accepted candidates who go on to attend. So, even if Carson had actually been nominated and appointed and accepted but went to Yale instead, West Point would have no record of it.

Of course, in point of fact, the offer was informal and ended when Carson indicated his intention to pursue a medical career. So there would have been no paperwork for West Point to discard after three years. But nobody doubts that, if he had accepted the offer he was extended, he very likely would have been admitted to West Point.

33 posted on 11/08/2015 11:07:24 PM PST by cynwoody
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BI on it’s knees once again.


34 posted on 11/08/2015 11:10:28 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Carson is guilty of run-of-the-mill embellishment.

Or perhaps what he said is how he mistakenly understood the situation.

35 posted on 11/08/2015 11:18:42 PM PST by Carry_Okie (Dupes for Donald, Chumps for Trump)
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To: MNJohnnie

The writer of this article is guilty of embellishment.


36 posted on 11/08/2015 11:21:03 PM PST by gogeo (If you are Tea Party, the GOPee does not want you.)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

Spin, spin, spin all you want but everyone knows Carson flat out lied.


37 posted on 11/09/2015 4:39:46 AM PST by Enlightened1
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To: Enlightened1

I am not spinning, just reporting truths you refuse to hear.

So don’t vote for him. I’m not voting for him either. But it has absolutely nothing to do with the lying charge that he lied in this matter. Neither do I support anyone who thinks this is an honorable way to advance their own campaign.


38 posted on 11/09/2015 9:13:49 AM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: Enlightened1
Spin, spin, spin all you want but everyone knows Carson flat out lied.

You are a tool of the Left.

39 posted on 11/09/2015 12:21:44 PM PST by cynwoody
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Oh yeah THAT’S the ticket!

Here is your TPP, Amnesty supporting, Pro Syrian War loving, forced inoculation (aka medical tyranny) Ben Carson: “I was offered a full scholarship to West Point” (Oct 9, 2015)

He says it at 29 seconds.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xRzFL0_TRo


40 posted on 11/09/2015 12:26:49 PM PST by Enlightened1
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