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1 posted on 11/05/2015 10:05:02 AM PST by Kaslin
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Maybe Dawkins would like to explain where physics and energy came from.


36 posted on 11/05/2015 11:02:44 AM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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Science can only reveal the magnificence of his creation and how irrelevant we are in it.


38 posted on 11/05/2015 11:08:26 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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it came about just through the laws of physics

Where did the natural laws and natural constants of physics come from?

42 posted on 11/05/2015 11:32:28 AM PST by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To prove something exists means sticking it in a bottle and coming up with a “repeatable” test that other people can reproduce and validate your results. The cold fusion guys failed to do this and their experiment was proven flawed by others which is why cold fusion is considered not to exist.

To prove something does not exist as the premise of the experiment is much, much, harder. You have to eliminate “every possible way” it could occur and create a huge matrix of repeatable experiments that need to be validated. That is why most theories are proof positive not proof negative and why mathematicians stay away from proof negative as it is almost impossible to come up with every possible way something cannot exist.

Now apply that scientific approach to proving or disproving God and it is easy to see that you can’t stick God in a bottle to examine in a repeatable experiment so claiming that science has proven or disproven God is completely ridiculous. The only conclusion you can draw is that disproving the existence of God will be much, much, harder based on science. When these guys get together and reinforce their atheistic faith and chant “science” in between their group think reaffirmation of their beliefs, they automatically validate they don’t understand the first thing about science.


47 posted on 11/05/2015 11:45:15 AM PST by Gen-X-Dad
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Without God there would not be.


50 posted on 11/05/2015 11:52:03 AM PST by Phlap (REDNECK@LIBARTS.EDU)
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Science takes things apart to see how they work. Religion puts things together to see what they mean.

...Science analyses, religion integrates. Science breaks things down to their component parts. Religion binds people together in relationships of trust. Science tells us what is. Religion tells us what ought to be. Science describes. Religion beckons, summons, calls. Science sees objects. Religion speaks to us as subjects. Science practices detachment. Religion is the art of attachment, self to self, soul to soul. Science sees the underlying order of the physical world. Religion hears the music beneath the noise. Science is the conquest of ignorance. Religion is the redemption of solitude.
- Rabbi Jonathan Sacks, The Great Partnership


55 posted on 11/05/2015 12:16:33 PM PST by Heartlander (Prediction: Increasingly, logic will be seen as a covert form of theism. - Denyse O'Leary)
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Proof that DNA was designed by a mind:
(1) DNA is not merely a molecule with a pattern; it is a code, a language, and an information storage mechanism.
(2) All codes we know the origin of are created by a conscious mind.
(3) Therefore DNA was designed by a mind, and language and information are proof of the action of a Super-intelligence.

We can explore five possible conclusions:
1) Humans designed DNA
2) Aliens designed DNA
3) DNA occurred randomly and spontaneously
4) There must be some undiscovered law of physics that creates information
5) DNA was Designed by a Superintelligence, i.e. God.

(1) requires time travel or infinite generations of humans. (2) could well be true but only pushes the question back in time. (3) may be a remote possibility, but it is not a scientific explanation in that it doesn’t refer to a systematic, repeatable process. It’s nothing more than an appeal to luck . (4) could be true but no one can form a testable hypothesis until someone observes a naturally occurring code. So the only systematic explanation that remains is (5) a theological one.

To the extent that scientific reasoning can prove anything, DNA is proof of a designer.


56 posted on 11/05/2015 12:17:38 PM PST by Jayster
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I was led to Jesus by some genuine rocket scientists working on the Apollo program.


58 posted on 11/05/2015 12:25:10 PM PST by tbpiper
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Absolutely risible. Science requires the very axioms that it itself cannot prove to even work. And the improbability of macroevolution of even a simple orhanism from left-handed only proteins - let alone all life as we know it and opposite-gender sexual procreation - defies credulity. It sets the pseudoscientists’ beliefs squarely in the camp of faith.


67 posted on 11/05/2015 12:51:22 PM PST by Lexinom
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No scientist,or *group* of scientists,can definitively prove *or* disprove God's existence.
72 posted on 11/05/2015 2:00:14 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Obamanomics:Trickle Up Poverty)
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No.


78 posted on 11/05/2015 2:17:48 PM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
- Hamlet


80 posted on 11/05/2015 2:20:24 PM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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Libs don’t want God exists so they can live guilt-free in all their sins.


81 posted on 11/05/2015 2:43:55 PM PST by Angels27
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