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The SEALs must return to the shadows
US Defense Watch ^
| November 2, 2015
| Ray Starmann
Posted on 11/02/2015 12:33:38 AM PST by pboyington
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To: Travis McGee
To be fair, this “celebrity” phenom is not unique to the SEAL community. Lots of cashing in going on across all branches and I agree with you that people in this line of work need to shut their pie holes.
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posted on
11/02/2015 8:50:30 AM PST
by
TADSLOS
(A Ted Cruz Happy Warrior! GO TED!)
To: ozzymandus
I know a guy who was a tier one operator in the early days. I actually knew him for about ten years before he said much about it and even then, it was very little. That’s the way it should be.
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posted on
11/02/2015 9:48:18 AM PST
by
cyclotic
(Liberalism is what smart looks like to stupid people.)
To: pboyington
Not readable with all the weird symbols.
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posted on
11/02/2015 10:56:47 AM PST
by
subterfuge
(TED CRUZ FOR POTUS! TED CRUZ FOR POTUS!)
To: CodeToad
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posted on
11/02/2015 12:10:46 PM PST
by
Travis McGee
(www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
To: spetznaz
ha, your screen name is perfect for this thread aint it?
I agree with your Delta / Seal Team point.....but as for borrowing? These elite units have been borrowing from each other for decades, and for those old enough, centuries.
Is this writing of books and everything else making it easier? Well, probably.
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posted on
11/02/2015 1:40:49 PM PST
by
C. Edmund Wright
(WTF? How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost...Again (Amazon Best Seller))
To: snoringbear
i bet that would have been news to Michael P. Murphy, LT. USN, Medal of Honor Recipient... but he was KIA
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posted on
11/02/2015 4:46:28 PM PST
by
Chode
(Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -w- NO Pity for the LAZY - Luke, 22:36)
To: CodeToad; Travis McGee
" There is a Team 6 guy here in Colorado that has a huge truck and loads of bling on it stating he was a member, including his plate âSEAL6â. The gate to his âsecret compoundâ has all kinds of bling on it too. He always travels with some poor sucker frog that carries his bags. I think you might know who this individual is."
Doubt he's a SEAL. Used to have a URL for a SEAL site that busted wannabes. Just Google or ask Travis Mcgee. Plus, there are a lot of guys who made it through BUD/S, but never passed the many months long combat training. I think that was the case with Jesse Ventura, not sure.
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posted on
11/02/2015 7:05:48 PM PST
by
A Navy Vet
(An Oath is Forever)
To: pboyington; blueyon; KitJ; T Minus Four; xzins; CMS; The Sailor; ab01; txradioguy; Jet Jaguar; ...
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posted on
11/02/2015 7:09:15 PM PST
by
Jet Jaguar
(The saddest thing about betrayal is that it never comes from your enemies.)
To: easternsky
Gregory "Pappy" Boyington (December 4, 1912 - January 11, 1988) was an American combat pilot who was a United States Marine Corps fighter ace during World War II. He received both the Medal of Honor and the Navy Cross.
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posted on
11/02/2015 7:15:40 PM PST
by
LucyT
To: easternsky
7 Military threads in 7 days. Like or dislike the Military?
If you would read the threads you wouldn’t need to ask that.
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posted on
11/02/2015 7:26:42 PM PST
by
laplata
( Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
To: laplata
Read the threads, was asking about the poster.
To: easternsky
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posted on
11/02/2015 7:34:53 PM PST
by
laplata
( Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
To: pboyington
To: Travis McGee
"Another factor: Expansion teams. 40 years ago there were 2 SEAL Teams, one on each coast, and 4 UDTs (which were NOT the same as SEAL Teams, even though they shared common basic training.) Now I have lost count of how many SEAL Teams there are, but itâs double digits."
That's where we differ. As long as they go through the same endurance training at BUD/S and then on to combat training with Survival, Evasion, Resistance, Escape (SERE), the more the merrier in my book.
The same with some advanced Rangers, Special Forces, Delta Force, Marine Force Recon, Air Force ground controllers and their rescue counter-parts, and Snipers from each branch of service. Build entire divisions of each, with dedicated in close air support they may need at any given time. Think A-10 Warthogs and C-130 gunships.
As you know all the above are the guys who often make the difference in close quarter combat in specialized/clandestine inner-city missions nowadays. We can't have enough of them in this new urban warfare environment.
I'd personally like to see entire divisions in each branch specialty, so long as they continue the harsh training requirements. Women, no, no, no, and damn no on subs for other reasons. What say you about the above?
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posted on
11/03/2015 12:24:34 AM PST
by
A Navy Vet
(An Oath is Forever)
To: Dundee
I know of Aussie SAS guys from the Vietnam War who still wonât talk about what they did because to them keeping secrets means, unless ordered otherwise, you take them to your grave. A good many of them were Warrant Officers when I knew them. Damn fine bunch of fellas.
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posted on
11/03/2015 12:51:28 PM PST
by
archy
(Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Except bears, they'll kill you a little, and eat you.)
To: Tallguy
DELTA was initially formed for a specific purpose â hostage rescue. Nope. *Blue Light* was formed for hostage rescue, particularly in the aircraft-full-of-hostages days. Delta came along a year or two later.
The SAS, btw, was formed to destroy aircraft...German ones.
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posted on
11/03/2015 12:57:40 PM PST
by
archy
(Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Except bears, they'll kill you a little, and eat you.)
To: TADSLOS; Travis McGee
To be fair, this âcelebrityâ phenom is not unique to the SEAL community. Indeed, why back when I was in my Quartermaster mess kit repair battalion [underwater] we were so secret even we didn't know what we were doing. Then along came MREs and they did away with the mess kits, and now I've forgotten what we did.
It was real secret though.
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posted on
11/03/2015 1:01:25 PM PST
by
archy
(Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Except bears, they'll kill you a little, and eat you.)
To: snoringbear
Seals are all enlisted? One of the dumbest things ever posted here.
To: strider44
“Seals are all enlisted? One of the dumbest things ever posted here.”
Yeah, I should have researched this prior to posting. But, now that I have your alias I just run all my comments by you before posting. So, now I’ve done some research, my error was using “all”. There are indeed officers in the Seals but most are running the missions from a command post. There are a few, 01,02 types, that go on missions but most teams at the special operator level are run by senior nco’s.
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posted on
11/03/2015 4:13:52 PM PST
by
snoringbear
(E.oGovernment is the Pimp,)
To: archy
It was real secret though. Probably something to do with immersion heaters....and MILGAS.
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posted on
11/03/2015 5:43:00 PM PST
by
TADSLOS
(A Ted Cruz Happy Warrior! GO TED!)
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