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House Republicans Renege on Every Promise with Infuriating Budget Deal
Rush Limbaugh.com ^ | October 28, 2015 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 10/28/2015 5:04:50 PM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Finny

Yup, but we have to face the truth as it is. Because the liberals allowed to push leftism on FR won’t.


101 posted on 10/30/2015 6:26:48 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (Embrace "Existential Cage Theory")
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Even notice how childlike the logic of an FR liberal is? “Mitt told me he was a conservative. So I voted for a conservative! You didn’t!!!!”

I can’t for the life of me why conservatism as a movement is so screwed up with such deep thinkers populating it.


102 posted on 10/30/2015 6:29:47 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (Embrace "Existential Cage Theory")
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To: Norm Lenhart

Stupidity or paid trolls. Or stupid paid trolls.

Do you remember that fella, I’m forgetting the name, he wrote about Republican history. It was OK for a time until he reached the point that anything Republican was good — anything. I reminded him that the GOP nominated, and elected, the only person ever to successfully run for Congress on the Communist Party line, Vito Marcantonio of NYC. I asked him if that was a good thing to celebrate...

...Of course, I never got a reply from him over his perpetual pimping of all things ‘Publican. He eventually got the ZOT.


103 posted on 10/30/2015 6:39:51 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Some of both no doubt.

Nope, that guy rings no bells for me. Plenty like him though. No sin unforgiven. No liberalism that cannot be ignored to ‘win’.

Charlie Sheen was a Republican. Who knew?


104 posted on 10/30/2015 6:43:48 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (Embrace "Existential Cage Theory")
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To: fieldmarshaldj

I like Virgil. He’s a fine gentleman. However, when we debated, it became clear that he retained some of his Democrat views, primarily in terms of this support of New Deal and Great Society programs.

I think it’s great that you didn’t vote for the most liberal governor in history, though. And I greatly appreciate your kind words. Thanks.


105 posted on 10/30/2015 7:00:15 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Representative self-government is my God-given right.)
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To: Finny; Thibodeaux; fieldmarshaldj; BlackElk; Hot Tabasco; EternalVigilance; Norm Lenhart; ...
There were two candidates (Obama and Romney) the same way some places give you the "choice" of two soft drinks -- Coca-Cola and Pepsi.

The fact is, restaurants do NOT give you a 'choice' between Coke and Pepsi because those two brands insist on (indeed, they demand) exclusivity with the merchant. You either offer Coke OR Pepsi, but not both. Just a minor flaw in your semantics.

The differences between them are so minor as to be laughable with regard to "choice." You pretend that there was a choice.

There was indeed a choice. For all of Romney's flaws, it could be (and was) demonstrably proven that Romney loves our Country, contrasted with lil boy Barky, who clearly despises all that our Nation stands for. In one area alone, Romney proved that he was certainly more capable in the area of foreign policy as he saw the writing on the wall regarding the resurgence of Russian imperial power under Vladimir Putin, he called Russia our 'adversary' and he was right. Obama sneered, laughed and in fact said 'the 80's called, they want their foreign policy back' but anyone with a double-digit IQ can see that Romney was proven correct by events from November 2012 forward.

Was Romney our first or even second choice? Hell no. And I speak as one of the premiere Romney-bashers on FR, bar none. However I reached the conclusion that for me to stay home on election day, and forfeit my vote by default to Obama, was absolutely unacceptable. And I resolved (and in fact posted my own vanity stating that I was doing a 180 degree turn regarding the Romney-Ryan ticket) to vote for the only Party in 2012 that had a real shot at possibly dislodging that Kenyan turd from our White House. I put my Nation above my own personal opinions and views, and I used an analogy which has yet to be discredited, which is that during World War II, America and the U.K. did not at all approve of Stalin and the way he oppressed his own people, the purges, the persecution of all religions, however Stalin had one thing that we needed to defeat a GREATER evil in Hitler's Germany and that was a still potent Red Army that once strengthened and reinforced via lend-lease, prevented the Nazis from running the board from Eastern Europe all the way to Vladivostok. We made Stalin our ally, and we held our nose because we didn't have any other realistic options to stop Hitler. The gamble worked.

Likewise, our choice in 2012 was similar in that Romney & Ryan were the only chance America had to stop Obama, and although our gamble did NOT work in that case, no one can say that the millions of Americans who voted Republican that year failed to do all they could to try and stop the Obamunist scourge that is still wreaking havoc upon our Nation.

And I hasten to point out that no less than our Esteemed Founder Jim Robinson reluctantly made that same decision as did other FReepers who are no less conservative for putting Country above all other things, regardless of our dissatisfaction with the Republican ticket that year. We had to do everything possible to stop Obama, and I am not ashamed one iota for having done so, nor should anyone who voted the GOP ticket in 2012.

You are only fooling yourself. And, as you projected onto Eternal Vigilance, you are so desperate to keep your own self-esteem intact, that you carry on with this charade and get angry at folks who used to be where you still are, but who have figured out that the deal being offered by left-leaning politicians that now dominate both major parties is almost literally "Heads I win, tails you lose."

This has nothing to do with self-esteem, it has to do with making a choice between evil (Obama) and a less-than-satisfactory candidate (Romney). There is no fence or grey area here, you either show up on election day and make a choice, or you park your ass at home, stew in your own juices, and remove yourself from participation.

Just because you are still falling for it doesn't change the reality that that is what you are falling for. My choice was to use my vote, the one tool I had, to dilute a bad substance (Coke or Pepsi, equally crappy) so that it would be that much weaker.

So how did that work out for you? Did your 'dilution' slow down the Obamunist campaign of working towards America's destruction? Did the 'RATS begin to moderate their views due to all the voters like you who chose to 'dilute' what they were doing? You know (and so does everyone else) that if you failed to vote for the only alternative political ticket that had a chance to stop the Obama regime, you wasted your vote. Eternal Vigilance is a fine FReeper and patriot, no question about that. But he never had a Chinaman's chance to win the Presidency.

You went ahead and allowed yourself to be manipulated into voting for crap that you didn't want in the first place.

Those who voted the Republican ticket in 2012 were voting AGAINST crap that was already piled sky high in Washington and across our Nation, crap that none of us wanted, and we wanted it STOPPED.

OR DIDNT YOU? Norm Lenhart is becoming more and more convincing in his argument that indeed, people like you WANTED what Romney has to offer. You WANT the political equivalent of crap like Coca-Cola and actually think it's "better" than Pepsi, metaphorically speaking.

When we realized that the Coke being served was tainted with poison, nobody was about to vote for Coke, and if Pepsi was the only drink available, we chose that drink because while it might not have been the best dietary choice, it wasn't going to kill us as fast as the damn Coke was, metaphorically speaking.

Hindsight is always 20/20.

Have a nice evening.
106 posted on 10/30/2015 7:17:48 PM PDT by mkjessup (Iran has an ayatollah for it's 'supreme leader', America has an ASSAHOLLAH !!!)
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To: mkjessup

People that love their country do not give cash and pass laws that kill it’s future outright. Nor do they thwart the will of their own voters by lying to them as easily as breathing. Nor do they side laughing with Ted Kennedy.

If you call that loving ones country, you have no idea what love means.


107 posted on 10/30/2015 7:25:12 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (Embrace "Existential Cage Theory")
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To: mkjessup

“And I hasten to point out that no less than our Esteemed Founder Jim Robinson reluctantly “

And on that day I and others told him he would regret the choice.

Later he made a post saying it was a mistake.


108 posted on 10/30/2015 7:27:08 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (Embrace "Existential Cage Theory")
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To: Norm Lenhart

Norm, I clearly stated that Romney was far from my first choice, and laughing it up with Ted Kennedy earned him no points with me. I maintain that the priority in 2012 was to get Obama out of the White House. We were presented with a flawed tool to do so. Those who understood that there was only one political choice and chance to stop Obama, voted for that flawed ticket of Romney & Ryan.

We can debate ‘love’ all night and all weekend, but I don’t believe that Romney hates America, he is certainly one RINO sonuvabitch, but I don’t buy the concept that he hates America like Obama does.


109 posted on 10/30/2015 7:29:21 PM PDT by mkjessup (Iran has an ayatollah for it's 'supreme leader', America has an ASSAHOLLAH !!!)
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To: mkjessup
Voting "against" is a fallacy. There is no such thing as voting "against." It is entirely pretend.

Sorry, but it's true.

110 posted on 10/30/2015 7:31:03 PM PDT by Finny (Voting "against" is a wish. Be ready to own what you vote for.)
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To: Norm Lenhart
And I hasten to point out that no less than our Esteemed Founder Jim Robinson reluctantly

And on that day I and others told him he would regret the choice.
Later he made a post saying it was a mistake.


And as I said in my post #106, hindsight is always 20/20. If supporting Romney vs Obama was a mistake, it was a mistake made with pure and honorable intentions. It was not an acknowledgement or endorsement of each and every one of Romney's positions, it was an acknowledgement that Obama had to go, by any means necessary.

This retrospective masochistic habit of judging and condemning good conservatives who were acting in what they believed were the best interests of our Nation is not productive, it is true that the past is past, and we have to remember the past and learn from it, but we can't live in the past. And you can believe that everyone has learned from the 2012 debacle which is why (in my opinion) Trump has pulled so far away of the pack and whipped the GOPe like the proverbial redheaded stepchild.

"Won't Be Fooled Again!"
~ The Who
111 posted on 10/30/2015 7:36:52 PM PDT by mkjessup (Iran has an ayatollah for it's 'supreme leader', America has an ASSAHOLLAH !!!)
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To: EternalVigilance

Hard for many pols to break the habit of seemingly popular programs that have become too expensive to perpetuate, but it will have to be done before long because the money is all gone.

As for your execrable major-party opponent (excluding Zero), there’s no way I could’ve spent 6 years (as of 2012) railing against him, his agenda, his character (or rather lack thereof) and the like and turned around and supported or voted for him. It was bad enough in 2008 (and I have since repudiated that vote due to McCain’s unfortunate longevity), but that was the final straw. I have no intention of feeding the beast known as the Republican wing of the bipartisan big gubmint cabal. It has got to be killed.


112 posted on 10/30/2015 7:40:57 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Agreed.


113 posted on 10/30/2015 7:42:23 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Representative self-government is my God-given right.)
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To: mkjessup

You just reminded me. I ordered the fruit juice.


114 posted on 10/30/2015 7:42:38 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: mkjessup

He;s not a choice period unless you ignore every ounce of conservative belief in you to choose him. I don’t GAF what gate he enters in the horse race. Voting for that guy is or was flat out a mistake. Barry isn’t ‘worse’. He’s evil in a different form but no less evil.

He did not win and we have his record as Governor to guide us if he had. That state is STILL underwater from his actions. He did and does profit from the laws he created to assist murderers. He IS anti gun. He is no friend of the military. NOTHING about him is good, right, just, moral or desirable. Politically or as a human.


115 posted on 10/30/2015 7:50:51 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (Embrace "Existential Cage Theory")
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To: Norm Lenhart

Amen.


116 posted on 10/30/2015 7:53:16 PM PDT by Finny (Voting "against" is a wish. Be ready to own what you vote for.)
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To: EternalVigilance; RitaOK; Finny; Windflier; Norm Lenhart; Thibodeaux; mkjessup; fieldmarshaldj; ...
Eternal Vigilance:

You again justify magnificently each and every vote cast for you including my own.

If all that Romney had to do to get the votes of such people was to not be Obozo, then why did they bother voting at all?

Romney: pro-abortion and actually profited from the grisly business of abortion by disposing of the little corpses for money to prevent the embarrassing photographic truth from being disseminated from the dumpsters behind the mills. Enemy of reserving marriage to non-perverts, gun grabber, foreign policy wimp, enemy of the military and its veterans, sees everything through the prism of Muffie's trust fund, exporter of American jobs, appointer of rank radical leftists and social revolutionaries to every available Taxachusetts judgeship, employer of undocumented Democrats of one kind to run his campaign and of the more customary kind to do his gardening CHEAP. What could he do to lose the votes of the love slaves of the GOP-E?

What can NEVER be justified is any person calling himself or herself an American, a patriot, much less a conservative, and voting for Romney OR Obozo.

And, it can never be repeated often enough, as Finny often posts, we have only the option of voting FOR a candidate. There is no mechanism for voting AGAINST one.

If and when this nation is destroyed it will be due to those who lack the courage or the clarity to vote the traditional morality of this country. I am particularly partial to the life's work of Blessed Fulton J. Sheen and appreciate the quote you included in your post and the book it came from.

As always, God bless you and yours!

117 posted on 10/30/2015 7:57:15 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline: Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society/Rack 'em Danno!)
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To: BlackElk; Finny

“And, it can never be repeated often enough, as Finny often posts, we have only the option of voting FOR a candidate. There is no mechanism for voting AGAINST one. “

That one thing is the cause of so many problems. It is the easiest thing in the world to say I voted Against” and justify it in ones mind.

It’s a protection mechanism. It’s kicking the can. It’s CYA. It’s a lot of things. But what it isn’t is true.

You don’t vote against the gay agenda by casting your vote FOR the father of Gay MArriage in America.

You do not vote against, or to end the global warming scam by casting a vote FOR a strong advocate.

You don’t vote against, end or keep abortion minimized by voting FOR a guy that made the support and profit from abortion a cornerstone of his record in office and business.

You don’t vote against lying in politics by voting FOR the biggest two faced liar the GOP ever produced.

But all that aside, all the above is meaningless because as you said and Finny has stated repeatedly, There is no PHYSICAL against box on the ballot for President. Whatever you check it’s FOR. The test is mental masturbation and justification. There is no arguement to be made. There isn’t one. Period. And to argue that “Well I FEEL...” is just liberalism. There is no “Feel”. There is FOR.

To paraphrase Yoda, There is For or nothing. There is no against. No idiot in FLA will sit there with a magnifying glass determining the intent of the voter. You voted for one, For the other, for someone else, or not at all. But you voted FOR

F O R

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Any way you slice it.

For.


118 posted on 10/30/2015 8:13:37 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (Embrace "Existential Cage Theory")
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To: mkjessup; Finny; Norm Lenhart; RitaOK
The one and only assertion in your post that passes the smell test was your analogy of FDR allying with Stalin against Hitler to squishballs posing as conservatives and patriots voting for the Stalin equivalent of Willard Mitt Romney. Each was a sellout of monumental proportions. In each case, the enemy was truly reprehensible and in each case the "ally" was equally reprehensible.

It could be demonstrated that Romney loves this country????? No, it cannot because he does not, like his execrable daddy and mommy before him.

What convinced you? Was it his heroic service in Viet Nam? Oh, that's right, he served in Paris dodging the draft as a "missionary." which is something he could have done AFTER military service. Parisian cuisine beats K-rations anytime, right?

Was it his steadfast protection of the jobs of American workers? Oh, that's right he is a major broker of jobs to places like Bangladesh and the mere middle class and working class who actually fight and die in our wars and for our country, unlike anything named Romney, be da*ned so long as Muffie's trust fund is fattened by resulting "profits" from impoverishing his fellow Americans.

Well, he is a member (and to their shame an elite member) of the Church of Latter Day Saints. He must be pro-life and pro-marriage as a bishop of that church, right? Oh no, Willard got a pass from church leadership (to their everlasting shame) on both publicly funded abortion on demand and perversion posing as marriage of the fudgepackers. I wrote this paragraph as one who has often defended the LDS here and I am a Catholic. LDS has a tremendous number of wonderful decent people who are among the most personally moral in our nation, but NOT anyone in clan Romney. I disagree with their theology but admire their morality based on Mormons I have known.

Just as Kerry, Pelosi, the late Kennedy the Last (hopefully although his son and namesake has been elected to Connecticut's State Senate), Rosa DeLauro, Patty Murray and so many, many others ought to be summarily excommunicated publicly by their respective bishops, so Romney should be cast in the outer darkness and excommunicated by LDS.

Oh, so Romney called Putin and Russia our adversary? Be still my beating heart over his extraordinary courage in giving you the tiniest of fig leaves. If he were POTUS, the POS would have done absolutely NOTHING but conclude new trade deals with Putin so that American donor class of corrupt greedocrats like himself could get their piece of the Russian slave labor market.

And finally, hindsight has nothing to do with it. Finny and Norm Lenhart and I and many others here were quite explicit that we were not voting as you did for the single sorriest excuse for a GOP candidate in party history. As you can see from this year's debates, the GOP-E may have learned their lesson in POTUS nominations and El Jebbie is going nowhere but home to Florida. Money can't buy him votes as it did for Romney in the halls of blind party first voting in "GOP" primaries. Next up to be purged: Ryano, McConnell, McCarthy, Cornyn, Corker, LAMAR!!!, Cockroach and their ilk. The we can concentrate on those who are flat out liars when posing as "conservative."

Get used to it! Rule or ruin!

119 posted on 10/30/2015 8:39:25 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline: Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society/Rack 'em Danno!)
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To: mkjessup; Finny; Norm Lenhart; RitaOK; EternalVigilance
mkjessup:

You talk a brave game now that we did the heavy lifting of destroying Mittens' candidacy. The fact is that you voted FOR Romney and all that he represents and all he had done and all of his unmitigated evil. Don't bother rationalizing it now when it is too late for you to have served your country by voting FOR a worthy candidate like Eternal Vigilance.

A good analogy (assuming that Romney has even a sliver of desirability over Obozo) would be as follows. You marry a woman who trusts that you will be a worthy husband and father. Thereafter, you cheat on her 499 times during the "marriage." BUT a neighbor has cheated on his wife 500 times. You and your neighbor both pass AIDS to your innocent unsuspecting wives. Nonetheless and therefore you are morally superior to your neighbor?????? If that makes sense to you, then giving you the benefit of the doubt that Romney had even ONE meaningful advantage over Obozo, your vote for Romney was somehow justified?????? NOT!

Talking dirty (one RINO sonuvabitch) does not improve your logic even though he is that, at best.

120 posted on 10/30/2015 8:51:53 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline: Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society/Rack 'em Danno!)
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