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Carson surges past Trump in Iowa. [2nd poll Carson up big]
The Hill ^ | 10/23/2015 | Jesse Byrnes

Posted on 10/23/2015 4:23:01 AM PDT by GIdget2004

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To: Sontagged

I agree.


141 posted on 10/23/2015 7:44:00 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel; Longbow1969

The questions were designed for Carson’s positive score, Longbow. It’s a push poll. Old time GOPe Rove tactic.


142 posted on 10/23/2015 7:44:31 AM PDT by Sontagged (Woe to you when all men shall speak well of you...)
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To: Red Steel; Jane Long; hoosiermama; DoughtyOne; sitetest; Longbow1969

I’m unsure how “sitetest” or is it “Longbow1969” who keeps saying that “Trump is not a conservative”?

Strange.

Donald Trump is the most conservative candidate in the GOP lineup.

I guess when you are a GOPe troll you just don’t understand conservatism!


143 posted on 10/23/2015 7:48:32 AM PDT by Sontagged (Woe to you when all men shall speak well of you...)
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To: PJ-Comix
If those questions were asked first then the poll is FRAUDULENT and they should be taken to task for their deception. I’m suspicious because they didn’t give the order in which questions were asked.

Yes you have good reason to be suspicious. As you may recall, the Des Moines Register in their editorial told Donald Trump to exit the GOP race and his presidential candidacy.

144 posted on 10/23/2015 7:57:31 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

Check this out; http://theiowarepublican.com/2015/trumps-impact-on-caucus-turnout-could-be-yuuuuge/

There were twice the number of people at the rally than the number of people who caucused in that county in 2012!!


145 posted on 10/23/2015 8:03:15 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: Sontagged

Sundance is the epitome of trump cultists.


146 posted on 10/23/2015 8:04:00 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, now unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: bert

In the remote chance that Ben Carson — who I truly admire — becomes the Republican nominee, the Democrat Socialists will rip him to shreds ... He is the “wrong kind of negro” in their racist minds. Unfortunately, with the demographics (including the huge block of parasitic voters), the Republican Party cannot “out-negro” the the Democrat Socialist Party. Harsh words I acknowledge ... but reality is even more harsh.


147 posted on 10/23/2015 8:09:56 AM PDT by glennaro
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To: sitetest; Red Steel

Really? You do know Rush Limbaugh referred to Sundance’s research?

And Ted Cruz’s people thought enough of Sundance to offer up their electoral math to him in September. (Though, sadly it was all a pre-debate bluff.).

LOL.

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/10/11/ted-cruz-the-reality-of-the-situation/

“Sundance”...posted before the last debate that Cruz’s campaign promised him their electoral “math” but somehow went to George Will instead...


148 posted on 10/23/2015 8:12:27 AM PDT by Sontagged (Woe to you when all men shall speak well of you...)
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To: sitetest

Somedunce claimed only Trump and Jeb have Iowa ground games. He lied, as anyone connected at all in Iowa knows Cruz and, to a lesser extent, Carson have serious ground games while Jeb hasn’t even tried.


149 posted on 10/23/2015 8:14:50 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Red Steel

Actually, the results tell a different story. A plurality found this unattractive in him.

But that is somewhat irrelevant to the question of whether this is a pro-Carson push poll.

Even though there are ambiguous questions where respondents were more favorable than not, they were objectively ambiguous, and those conducting the poll might well have expected that large numbers of respondents might feel negatively.

It would be as if a poll pointed to trump’s shuffles with McCain, Florida and others. Ask me about those, and I’ll respond with a negative valence. Ask a trump cultist, and one finds that’s actually part of the appeal to the cultist.

The question is inherently ambiguous.


150 posted on 10/23/2015 8:16:13 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, now unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Sontagged

It is you who thinks a flip-flopper on abortion, guns, and taxes, who has good words for single-payer healthcare, who thinks dammocraps do a better job on the economy, and whose favorite president was clinton is a conservative.


151 posted on 10/23/2015 8:25:13 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, now unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Sontagged

He has become the house organ of the trump campaign.


152 posted on 10/23/2015 8:26:23 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, now unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: jjotto

Thank you for proving my point.


153 posted on 10/23/2015 8:27:16 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, now unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: sitetest

LOL. Just give me a straight answer instead of reading off your GOPe talking points.

Who is more conservative than Trump in the current lineup, now that Cruz’s treasonous votes disqualify him?


154 posted on 10/23/2015 8:28:14 AM PDT by Sontagged (Woe to you when all men shall speak well of you...)
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To: ncalburt

It may be a surprise to many, but there are folks like me who are not crazy about any of the candidates, but in particular, we don’t care at all for Trump. Those folks have their reasons, but for me it’s just that I don’t trust a word he says.

Equating pointing out reality to Trump hate is a stretch, but it’s become de rigeur for FR, which used to be a bastion of free speech and a voice for conservatism.

FR has been transformed into a personality cult mecca virtually overnight. Truly amazing.


155 posted on 10/23/2015 8:29:22 AM PDT by randita
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To: sitetest; Red Steel; DoughtyOne

Your RINOism handicaps you.

The guy who you say has no foreign policy experience PREDICTED 9/11 in his year 2000 book.

You guys crack me up. Trump predicted 9/11. He wasn’t even a politician until 3 months ago.


156 posted on 10/23/2015 8:34:04 AM PDT by Sontagged (Woe to you when all men shall speak well of you...)
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To: HarleyLady27
Yesterday, they were really active on almost every Cruz, Carson, Trump thread...I thought more than normal...will watch more today, I have their names written down, so will be easy to keep tract of them...

I really, really hope that I am on your list! I'm sure that those on your list are representative of the free thinkers still roaming FR and it would be a huge source of pride to be among them.

157 posted on 10/23/2015 8:35:19 AM PDT by randita
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To: randita; ncalburt

Trump is the most conservative candidate in the GOP lineup now that Cruz’s treasonous votes disqualify him... so what are you talking about?


158 posted on 10/23/2015 8:35:21 AM PDT by Sontagged (Woe to you when all men shall speak well of you...)
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To: randita; HarleyLady27

LOL. Trump is the most conservative candidate in the running. What are you saying about free thinking and FR? Please be clear.


159 posted on 10/23/2015 8:37:21 AM PDT by Sontagged (Woe to you when all men shall speak well of you...)
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To: jjotto; sitetest; HarleyLady27; Red Steel

What Sundance was saying was that Carson and Cruz don’t have roadmaps to electoral victory...

and when Cruz’s people contacted Sundance and then failed to turn in their electoral math to him — Sundance’s research rang even more true.

It’s weird also how Bush suddenly came out and put Cruz down, when he wouldn’t even put Obama down all these years.

GOPe is just freaking about Trump.


160 posted on 10/23/2015 8:41:15 AM PDT by Sontagged (Woe to you when all men shall speak well of you...)
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