FAA to Require Recreational Drone Operators to Register

NBC News ^ | OCT 19 2015 | KEITH WAGSTAFF

[mware]

Heck, I bought 4 of them last year at Radio Shack for Christmas gifts. They are just about in every store that sells toys even Walmart sells them.

How the heck are they going to find out who buys one?

[bunkerhill7]

Gov. Coumo to Require NY State Recreational Drone Operators to Register their drones under the SAFEDRONE ACT>.

[Kickass Conservative]

Uh oh, I'll bet the Kite Fliers are next.

Let's go fly a Kite
Up to the highest height
Let's go fly a kite and send it soaring
Up through the atmosphere
Up where the air is clear
Oh, let's go fly a Kite

Let's go pay a Fee
Let's give up our Identity
Let's go pay a Fee and give up freedom
Down to the DMV
Surrender to the Bureaucracy
Oh, let's recall being Free

[JimRed]

Define “recreational”. If I am patrolling my property with a drone, it is a tool, not a toy. If I’m using it to keep tabs on the regime, it’s a weapon (in their eyes).

[Kickass Conservative]

>>>Heck, I bought 4 of them last year at Radio Shack for Christmas gifts<<<

So, you’re one of those Straw Buyers huh?

[showme_the_Glory]

Good bust there KAC.

[jonrick46]

Just what Big Government wants: More bureaucracy, more red tape and the ordinary citizen paying dearly for justice.

[mware]

So, you’re one of those Straw Buyers huh?

That is the trouble with saying they are going to register them. Cavuto is doing a segment on this right now. Said over 700,000 will be purchased this year as gifts.

[prisoner6]

Come and get me copper!

[Kickass Conservative]

The stupidity is overwhelming.

Are Drones serialized like Guns? Is there a Grandfather Clause? Are there Classifications on Drones such as Assault Drones, Semi Auto Drones or Drones with more than 10 Propellers? Age Restrictions for owning and operating a Drone? Mental Health Restrictions for purchasing one?

How about RC Airplanes? They even make Jet Engines for those nowadays. Put a couple of M-80’s on one and Bomb the White Hut. The SS Guys on the Roof won’t be able to shoot it down if it’s coming in fast and low.

You wake up every day and say to yourself, what Moronic Government idea will impact my Life and Freedom?

They never disappoint.

[Amendment10]

Thank you for referencing that article McGruff. Please bear in mind that the following critique is directed at the article and not at you.

"The FAA announced on Monday that recreational drone operators will be required to register their aircraft."

FR: Never Accept the Premise of Your Opponent’s Argument

Not only have the states never delegated to the feds, expressly via the Constitution, the specific power to regulate drones, but even if the states had done so, please consider the following.

The Founding States had made the first numbered clauses in the Constitution, Sections 1-3 of Article I, to clarify that only the elected members of Congress can exercise federal legislative / regulatory powers. So even if the states had delegated such powers to Congress, Congress cannot delegate such powers to non-elected federal bureaucrats like those running the EPA and FAA.

So what we’re seeing here is the corrupt federal government once again expanding its powers outside the framework of the Constitution. Note that Thomas Jefferson and James Madison, Madison generally regarded as the father of the Constitution, had warned about the federal government slowly expanding its powers without the consent of the Article V state majority as evidenced by the following excerpts.

• ”I believe there are more instances of the abridgement of freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments by those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations.” —James Madison, Speech at the Virginia Convention to ratify the Federal Constitution (1788-06-06)

• "I consider the foundation of the Constitution as laid on this ground: That "all powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States or to the people." [X Amendment] To take a single step beyond the boundaries thus specifically drawn around the powers of Congress, is to take possession of a boundless field of power, no longer susceptible of any definition." --Thomas Jefferson: National Bank Opinion, 1791.

Also, all roads to unconstitutional expansion of the federal government’s powers arguably lead to the ill-conceived 17th Amendment, the corrupt Senate not doing its job to protect the states as the Founding States had intended for the Senate to do as a consequence of that amendment.

In this example the Senate should have killed legislation that helped to delegate federal regulatory powers, powers that Congress actually does not have in this case, to non-elected federal bureaucrats like those running the EPA and the FAA.

The 17th Amendment needs to disappear, and corrupt senators who help to pass unconstitutional bills which steal 10th Amendment-protected state powers along with it.

[amorphous]

The FAA already has laws in place now. Registration would lead to increased bureaucracy with little or not benefit for safety.

Unmanned Aircraft Systems (UAS) Regulations & Policies

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Fly below 400 feet and remain clear of surrounding obstacles
Keep the aircraft within visual line of sight at all times
Remain well clear of and do not interfere with manned aircraft operations
Don't fly within 5 miles of an airport unless you contact the airport and control tower before flying
Don't fly near people or stadiums
Don't fly an aircraft that weighs more than 55 lbs
Don't be careless or reckless with your unmanned
aircraft – you could be fined for endangering people or other aircraft

[prisoner6]

Mrs p6 flys my quad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xF7hgOxMiWI

I retrieve it. (After I flew it.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgAJkNA55FE

Youngest sons very first flight. Video from the quad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbnHheb_oaw

[Kickass Conservative]

This is the problem with being a Conservative.

Now that the Government wants to get involved in the ownership of Drones, I will have to go out and purchase one before they pass a new Law.

I had no interest in owning one until now. My Wife will be pissed when I bring a new Drone home from the Store. I’ll have to pay Cash so there is no Paper Trail. LOL

[lavaroise]

.. And then they said, why not guns too, and since gays were registered in marriage through the census, voilà, the Hitler liberals had a head start.

[prisoner6]

I lost all mine in a tragic, overturned canoe accident.

[familyop]

Victims still won’t have any information with which to identify them (tiny numbers, shifting around quickly?). They’ll hit, run and cause all kinds of trouble. Meanwhile, government employees are allowed to cross frequencies to stop them with radio waves, while others are not (automatic immunities with no need for legislation). More trouble, more funding to participate in trouble.

[Tau Food]

First they came for the toys.

If I mount a gun on my drone, would they be allowed to make me register it?

[MasterGunner01]

I predict this licensing edict will be held in the same regard by drone pilot hobbyists and the FAA as CB radio users held the licensing requirements of the FCC in the 1970s. That is, the CB users ignored the FCC. The FCC knew when to give up and stopped the practice.