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American Cargo Ship ‘El Faro’ Missing with 33 Crew in Hurricane Joaquin
gCaptain ^ | October 2, 2015 | Mike Schuler

Posted on 10/02/2015 4:50:41 PM PDT by artichokegrower

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Prayers for the crew and their families

Does any one know where the love of God goes When the waves turn the minutes to hours? - Gordon Lightfoot

1 posted on 10/02/2015 4:50:41 PM PDT by artichokegrower
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To: artichokegrower
And that's the thing . . . most of us are here on land. Yeah, we get floods, and tornadoes, and such . . . but we don't live or make our living on something that moves beneath us.
2 posted on 10/02/2015 4:54:18 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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>>And that’s the thing . . . most of us are here on land. Yeah, we get floods, and tornadoes, and such . . . but we don’t live or make our living on something that moves beneath us.

We had to surface our submarine once in 30 ft seas to rescue the crew of a sinking freighter in the north Atlantic. That’s an experience I don’t want to repeat.


3 posted on 10/02/2015 5:03:09 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Bryanw92

What sub? (if you’re allowed to tell).

If not, no biggie.


4 posted on 10/02/2015 5:09:45 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Be a blessing to a stranger today for some have entertained angels unaware)
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To: SaveFerris

USS Scamp (SSN-588) February, 1988.


5 posted on 10/02/2015 5:10:51 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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Was this the time?

During a storm in the North Atlantic on 25 February 1987, while attempting to rescue members of the crew of the sinking Philippine freighter, MV Balsa 24, Scamp suffered flooding and damage to her sail which led to her early retirement. The ship saved the life of one crew member, Mr. Almer Rances.

6 posted on 10/02/2015 5:13:35 PM PDT by packrat35 (Pelosi is only on loan to the world from Satan. Hopefully he will soon want his baby killer back)
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That’s the one. I typed 1988 by mistake.


7 posted on 10/02/2015 5:14:35 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Bryanw92

Bad enough damage to cause its decommissioning. Sounds intense.


8 posted on 10/02/2015 5:15:57 PM PDT by packrat35 (Pelosi is only on loan to the world from Satan. Hopefully he will soon want his baby killer back)
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To: Bryanw92

Wow, cool. I’d sure hate to see 30-ft seas around me.


9 posted on 10/02/2015 5:17:40 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Be a blessing to a stranger today for some have entertained angels unaware)
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That’s a big ass ship

Prolly 30-50,000 dwt?

They do sink


10 posted on 10/02/2015 5:18:49 PM PDT by wardaddy (i)
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>>Bad enough damage to cause its decommissioning. Sounds intense.

We were already scheduled for decommissioning in 1988. The damage just cut into our remaining opportunities for getting out to sea.

It was a rough two days.


11 posted on 10/02/2015 5:18:57 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: artichokegrower

Prayers for their safety.


12 posted on 10/02/2015 5:18:58 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: SaveFerris

>>Wow, cool. I’d sure hate to see 30-ft seas around me.

Especially when you have a round bottom, only one screw, a blunt bow, and giant sail on top. Then, we lost the ability to dive due to damage and had to fix it before we could get back under the storm.


13 posted on 10/02/2015 5:21:44 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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“Wow, cool. I’d sure hate to see 30-ft seas around me.”
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No you don't, I have been there and done the on a Fletcher class DD and have NO desire to repeat the experience.
14 posted on 10/02/2015 5:21:57 PM PDT by mongo141 (Revolution ver. 2.0, just a matter of when, not a matter of if!)
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To: Travis McGee; Pelham

And U.S. flagged

Do posters realize how rare that is these days

Had to have US or BritLloyds or Norske Veritas or German Lloyds classification too

You can’t run banana classification with US flag except under wartime waiver

A well managed and kept motor vessel

Amazing lost at sea from a storm without a collision or running aground

It’s very rare


15 posted on 10/02/2015 5:23:06 PM PDT by wardaddy (i)
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To: Bryanw92

My favorite grouper


16 posted on 10/02/2015 5:23:44 PM PDT by wardaddy (i)
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To: mongo141

the = that


17 posted on 10/02/2015 5:23:51 PM PDT by mongo141 (Revolution ver. 2.0, just a matter of when, not a matter of if!)
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To: SaveFerris

Try it in a 40 foot ketch.....


18 posted on 10/02/2015 5:24:18 PM PDT by wardaddy (i)
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To: artichokegrower

No propulsion and a 15 degree list?

From my hobby of following great lakes freighters I know that is really bad. No propulsion likely means no generators ergo, no pumps.

CC


19 posted on 10/02/2015 5:25:23 PM PDT by Celtic Conservative (Lightspeed: 186,000 miles per second squared. It's not just a good idea, it's THE LAW!)
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To: artichokegrower

U cannot do commerce between US ports without US flag baring expediency waiver

Which explains this vessel trading Jax to San Juan


20 posted on 10/02/2015 5:25:53 PM PDT by wardaddy (i)
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