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Starbucks baristas demand meeting with CEO Howard Schultz to discuss scheduling issues
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Posted on 09/29/2015 7:19:35 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA

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To: Grams A

You have no idea where or how I grew up.

I was not complaining merely explaining how retail works.

Try ranching particularly during calving season when it’s winter


21 posted on 09/29/2015 10:00:09 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Nifster

Thought you were complaining because you worked in retail - didn’t mean to offend you.

I know about calving in the winter when the snow is so deep you can’t walk though it to get to the barn and blowing so hard you can’t see your hand in front of your face. My dad used to keep ropes run between the house and the barn so we wouldn’t get lost in the dark. We had cattle and horses and they only had their babies between 1 a.m. and 4 a.m. My grandson works in the Texas panhandle on a show goat farm. Their 900 goats had 700 babies last year and only three of them to handle it all. He’s not quite as fond of goats as he once was.

Those who complain about retail work should try their hand at ranching or farming, maybe they would change their tune.


22 posted on 09/29/2015 10:12:09 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

They can’t schedule workers? LOL, are the Starbuck gulags full?


23 posted on 09/29/2015 10:13:11 PM PDT by Fledermaus (To hell with the Republican Party. I'm done with them. If I want a Lib Dem I'd vote for one.)
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To: catnipman

No one puts a gun to their head and forces you/them to work there.

I’ve been in management for decades and a lot these days is based on what people say when they get hired. You can’t imagine how many fill out applications and put down on “What days and shifts are you available?” the answer “ANY”.

Really? First time there is some kid with a soccer game they can’t work. Worse, they tell you AFTER you fill out the schedule.

Want a job? Work when you say you will or quit.


24 posted on 09/29/2015 10:18:32 PM PDT by Fledermaus (To hell with the Republican Party. I'm done with them. If I want a Lib Dem I'd vote for one.)
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To: Fledermaus

“Work when you say you will or quit.”

So,it’s ok with you when Walmart or Starbucks or whoever repeatedly schedules you for work for a specific time and duration and the calls up at the last minute and tells you not to come in? Several times a week they do this and it’s ok for them to treat people like that in your book?


25 posted on 09/29/2015 10:35:04 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Grams A

The ropes were always a feeling of calm. The white outs with brutal winds still chill me to the bone. You made me laugh at the timing of those calves...never seem to fail.

No complaints from me. Glad I am able enough and have a job


26 posted on 09/29/2015 11:49:34 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Red in Blue PA

The fact that the front line troops are requesting a meeting with the COC, indicates a severe management lapse on the COC, no?


27 posted on 09/30/2015 4:04:15 AM PDT by GotMojo
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To: catnipman
I was a manager for many years and I can tell you why scheduling is always changing for the workers.

It's because so many workers are always coming up with reasons why they "can't work" which forces the manager to constantly adjust the schedule. So it's pretty much impossible to schedule a retail shift more than a week out.

Always somebody with their "aunt in the hospital" or "I tweaked my back" or some such nonsense. I've heard just about every reason imaginable for somebody not to come into work as scheduled.

I've only had one sick day in 30 years so I don't have a lot of sympathy for people who are allergic to work.

28 posted on 09/30/2015 4:21:15 AM PDT by SamAdams76 (A businessman gets things donee with own money. A politician takes money and gets nothing done.)
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I was a manager for many years and I can tell you why scheduling is always changing for the workers.

I can't disagree with you, but I think you put your finger on exactly why the Starbucks scheduling software is such a bad idea. Scheduling in the fast food environment will always be more art than science. It is unrealistic to think that you can account for every eventuality in your software program. The proposed fix of adding additional scheduling rules into the software will only make the problem worse (they need to give their managers more scheduling flexibility, not less).

Humans are not machines. They are all different and everyone has issues of one sort or another (those rare humans who don't have issues won't be working at Starbucks very long because they will find better jobs).

29 posted on 09/30/2015 5:42:02 AM PDT by j. earl carter
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To: Red in Blue PA

Q: What does a CEO have to do with coffee bar worker scheduling?

A: Not a darned thing.


30 posted on 09/30/2015 5:46:36 AM PDT by MortMan (The rule of law is now the law of rulings - Judicial, IRS, EPA...)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Are they still trying to organize under the Wobblies?


31 posted on 09/30/2015 6:20:29 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Grams A

Roman slaves had to walk barefoot to work in the snow, uphill both ways. They’d be calling you the pansy.


32 posted on 09/30/2015 6:29:46 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: SamAdams76

“I’ve only had one sick day in 30 years so I don’t have a lot of sympathy for people”

That’s why you have no sympathy. One of these days, you’re going to grow old and your health is going to decline, and THEN you’ll understand what it’s like to have poor health. Until then, you can arrogantly piss on the ill and sick.


33 posted on 09/30/2015 8:41:47 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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I’ve talked with Walmart workers and it’s an absolute travesty in how they are treated with respect to scheduling. It’s simply not possible to live a life or have a family life with the way the corporations completely screw over the lives of their part time workers. I’m with the baristas on this one.

Then they should quit.

The fact that they don't, indicates that Starbucks, scheduling hassles and all, offers them better pay than any other job that they are likely to get.

One fact of life is that companies respond to profit and loss. When the expense of having to deal with continual turnover, because people keep quitting, starts affecting profitability, then they will address the issue. Not before.

34 posted on 09/30/2015 8:47:25 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: PapaBear3625

Gosh, no wonder people like you fail to understand the lack of appeal of conservatives to the working underclass and why socialists like Sanders are so appealing to them.


35 posted on 09/30/2015 9:13:43 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: catnipman

What’s the excuse for the younger people?


36 posted on 09/30/2015 9:44:16 AM PDT by SamAdams76 (A businessman gets things donee with own money. A politician takes money and gets nothing done.)
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To: catnipman

Yes, it’s okay. If a worker doesn’t like it they should find work elsewhere. Or do you prefer a government agency full of overpaid for life bureaucrats to tell them how to operate their business?

Sounds like something I’d hear from Bernie Sanders.


37 posted on 09/30/2015 1:56:09 PM PDT by Fledermaus (To hell with the Republican Party. I'm done with them. If I want a Lib Dem I'd vote for one.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Am I the only one who HATES that word...”baristas?”


38 posted on 09/30/2015 2:03:16 PM PDT by PJ-Comix (DUmmie Skinner: Bought & Paid For By Hillary)
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